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Discussion in 'Making Money' started by johnnygood, Apr 1, 2010.

  1. gonzomcribbinz

    gonzomcribbinz Regular Member

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    I'm all about squashing these useless "feel good and think happy thoughts" as "method" threads.

    If I wanted to read a positive thinking circle-jerk, I'd go to the Warrior Forum.
     
  2. zen19

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    So, back on topic - can I hear some of YOUR suggestions for filtering/removing the crap, what type of things would you like gone from the Making Money section - and what constructive changes would you make?

    Rep for every good idea.
     
  3. dearac

    dearac Junior Member

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    I would like to see a mod that is dedicated to the make money section. Someone like wiz that is moding the downloads.

    With maybe a way to vote something off the forum? I don't know.
     
  4. gonzomcribbinz

    gonzomcribbinz Regular Member

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    Exorbitant claims must be substantiated in some way.

    For example, if a thread is titled "MAKE $9,764 IN ONE DAY FLIPPING BOOGERS ON FACEBOOK LOLLL!!!111" then there must be some kind of proof that this is obtainable (screenshot, etc) before wasting a lot of n00bs' time and sidetracking them from something that could actually make them money had they not been listening to the ramblings of some idiot pulling figures out of his ass.

    Edit/afterthought: Maybe the same way a virus scan is req'd for downloads, a "proof of concept success/proof of earnings" should be required for "make money" methods.
     
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  5. dumdum4gumgum

    dumdum4gumgum Power Member

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    I aggree with this!
    All the hype in the threads for shitty methods is way over done.
    For instant "Make $1,000,000,000, taking shits today!!
    We all Know this isnt going to happen. And if they really do make what they claim Make a rule to show a un-photoshoped image.
     
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  6. blackmagicmaster

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    This post is more motivation type rather then making money !! making money section either must have making money method's or some thing related not any motivation , faq , how to etc !! rest up to zen !!
     
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  7. zen19

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    This is an interesting suggestion - and has merit for more discussion. This idea is noted. Rep given.
     
  8. Haspel

    Haspel Power Member

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    IMHO motivational,personal journals and "please tell me how to make money" threads dont belong in this section. Maybe personal journals and motivational threads can be move to a separate section or maybe a subfolder since they both serve the same purpose(to inspire newbies).

    Also maybe a new rule should be implemented, something in the lines of :
    "A minimum of 30 days and 10 posts are required to start a thread in this forum"
     
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  9. Charizard

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    I guess it might be a good idea, but instead of stealing the thread you could have just started your own thread in the feedback section. Maybe even made it a sticky to help make sure people noticed. Didn't really have to take your frustration out on some guy who at least posted something.

    Theres ALOT of people who read but don't ever post and this will do more harm than good I'm afraid - discouraging open participation isn't very much in tune with what a "forum" is.

    Maybe explain what actual rule it is you are purposing because at this point it seems like alot of empty frustration over nothing. If you don't like the thread - you don't have to comment just let it die, go read something else.

    Or maybe we'll go the route of most big websites that are ranked high in alexa and have a user voting or flagging system. Facebooks got one. Googles got one. Ebay has a user feedback system and so does Craigslist.
    Actually I think maybe it might be a good idea to restore the -Rep system for all users - because when I used to read posts back then I could get a really good idea real quick if alot of people didnt like a poster.

    Obviously no system is perfect though. YET :cool:
     
  10. Mrnewbie

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    I only post positive stuff meaning I don't like to get negative, but, when it comes to I made x amount of dollars and thanks to the forum, its like what happens if 1,000+ members did that? What do we gain out of it? I am happy for your success and please don't get me wrong at all but it would be nice if the words twisted, think outside the box, trends, outsource it, and stuff like that are not always included. I feel boggled down all the time with this and I think it threatens the creativity and flow of the money making forums. We are not asking for a spoon or exact method but maybe just some detail to your post would add some meat to the overall "how much I made". I could be very wrong, but what I would prefer is not just be the very bare bones.
     
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  11. gonzomcribbinz

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    Another suggestion (caution: this one will be controversial)

    Take away the "thanks" for posts that start threads like this: "How to make $xxx by whatever"

    It seems to me that the only reason they are so abundant is because the OP is looking for thanks - a concept that still baffles me. Maybe a lot of thanks makes your e-penis bigger? I'm not sure. I have a few thanks but my e-penis hasn't grown an inch. :( Hell, I can't even find my e-penis. It must be around here somewhere...

    But I digress...

    If you take away the motivation of collecting a shitload of "thanks" (at least in the first post of the thread) then the only motivation left to share such threads is for the true exchange of ideas - the very reason this forum exists.

    However, leave the ability to get "thanks" in subsequent posts in the thread because that will continue to encourage information flow and golden posts that come out when a good, solid thread is going along.

    Like I said, this is going to be a highly controversial suggestion, but IMO would help clean up forum from so many "thanks whore" threads and keep the spirit of true information exchange to a higher level.
     
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  12. aмillionaírе

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    Theories should be tolerated for as much as it is non-repetitive (not overly discussed) and logical, meaning realistic. "Motivation" is purely subjective and should be forwarded to the lounge. Non-substantiated threads (claims and "methods") should be re-titled, and if under the provision of infeasibility, should be forwarded to the lounge. Personal journals are tantamount to motivational conjuncture, and should be exercised at that discretion.Luckily, I see less of these in this section than other sections.
     
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  13. thesilent

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    Tag the contributors.

    Every month the person who contributes most will get a "Top contributor of the month" tag. Usually they are not after money or material things but some recognition is always great.
     
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  14. legoego

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    don't know what it is, but it sounds painful
    It seems to me that a fair share of these types of threads are created by new members that have low post counts.

    How's about putting a label like [noob] in the title so at least you know what to expect..
     
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  15. 7878

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    Nobody would like to see the quality bar raised around here more than I would. But you may have to resolve yourself to the fact that controlling generic statements and rehashed crap is a battle you just can't win.

    The sad fact of the matter is, most folks who join a community like this just don't have anything original or productive to offer. It's not their fault that they leech, some folks are just destined and/or determined to piggy back their way to success, or at the very least, to a shred of respect in an ever growing community.

    If you're looking to keep all the "think outside the box" and "don't give up" threads from cluttering up the money making sections, you might want to consider a separate section for all the feel-good, motivational, pat-on-the-back hippie bullshit to reside.

    And I've suggested this before, but I'll say it again - I think all new members should be sandboxed to a special section for 30 days or 50 posts, or until they've proven they're knowledgeable enough to play with others. These are the same people you see bloating the forum like broken records with questions like "I need to make $5,000 by Friday" and "plzzz how I can make Clickbank money help me plzzz".



    /opinion
     
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  16. Mrnewbie

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    Instead of counting how valuable the posts are by views and posts maybe we can try to look at how about how many reps and ratings the thread gets. Obviously, this can be abused too so no one should ask for reps. Maybe only allow Vip's to vote for the thread or ex to do so also. I do think it would distinguish the posts and give the ones that are more valuable more validity.
     
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  17. matt_k

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    I know im a new here. But i dont see how this thread belongs here.

    If the OP had success based on the method's provided by the BHW community. Why wouldn't he/she reply to the thread that contained the original method/technique?

    Wouldnt that be the most responsible way to discuss how you used the advice? If the OP had, then that thread would get bumped, and all of the subscribers (the people that were initially interested in that method) would be notified. Those people could then read about what the person did to help their success, and possibly help others.

    It's nice to see that people ARE benefiting from everything this forum has to offer. I know that I am. But if everyone posted some type of 'success' story, the useful posts (that people could ACTUALLY benefit from) would get burred amongst them.

    I guess if people really want to tell there story. Why not create a new section of the forum? The poster could then link to the helpful threads and discuss how they used it, and what they did different, etc.

    I don't see why a thread that says """Guys point here is really think outside the box.""" Can possibly help any of us without examples.

    This is just my .02 ... I must say, the past few days that i have been here. I am blown away by how helpful everyone is here, and have been on this site everyday since.

    -Cheers
     
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    Which is exactly why a moderator hijacked this thread. To make a point about how utterly useless these generic threads are. The question is, how do you stop it?
     
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  19. matt_k

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    Thats where a new section of the forum could help out.. If the Mod notices a thread like this, they could simply move it to the different section.

    Just a thought.

    Edit: I know thats not a way to 'prevent' such a post.. but i suppose its better than having them float around in this section, and wasting other's time.
     
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  20. matt_k

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    Force a poll on each thread. If it gets to many negative votes, it will automatically be removed.

    Kind of like how craigslist handles flagging posts.

    maybe?