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Must leads must be stolen !

Discussion in 'Affiliate Programs' started by hotpassion, Aug 27, 2009.

  1. hotpassion

    hotpassion Junior Member

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    My Leads Must Be Stolen !?

    Hi fellows,
    I joined MaxBounty 2 months ago and I have been promoting its offers like crazy. I see in my report that I have over 2,000 clicks but only 3 actions with some bucks gained. All my traffic are targeted traffic from search engines and I put the offers's banners in my niche blogs relating to the offers I promote. I can't understand why visitors clicked and there is no reason they didn't put their emails and(or) zip code to get the free stuffs like auto free quotes, health insurance free quotes,... :confused:
    I got clicks everyday but NO actions reported ?
    My question: Is it possible that I really catched Leads but my leads are stolen by Affiliate Network ? My offer range from many hot niches like insurance, debt, health,...

    What do you think about this ? I'm so frustrated with promoting MB's offers. I had been very excited with CPA marketing and had thought I would make at least hundreds $/month, but 2 months passed and I haven't made up to $20. I read in this BHW that some people say that CPA is the most easy way to make money, because you don't have to sell anything, just let people see your offers and when they sign up to get that free offers, I will get money. But after doing CPA with MB for 2 months, I stuck with some bucks, althought get thousands clicks ! :( Does CPA really suck or do i do smth wrong ?

    I really need your help with CPA marketing. I think whitehat marketing doesn't make you money with CPA like what I have been doing (if my leads are not stolen, but due to my low conversion).
    Thank for taking your time answering me.
    P.S Sorry for typing wrong title, it should be "My leads..", not "Must leads...". I can't edit the title.
     
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  2. S M W

    S M W Junior Member

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    Did you ask MB about this? Maybe they could give you some suggestions...
     
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  3. Quattro

    Quattro Junior Member

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    You are probably getting your leads shaved. Probably because your leads are not converting for the vendor in the back end. I noticed this myself before, usually when I start to promote a specific offer the conversions are pretty good, and then as I start getting more constant traffic the conversion ratio starts dropping. They key is to work with more than one CPA network and split test different offers.
     
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  4. hotpassion

    hotpassion Junior Member

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    I had asked my AM but he said there is nothing wrong with the offers and i think if they really shaved the leads, no one will ever tell us about that, right ?
     
  5. hotpassion

    hotpassion Junior Member

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    I agree with you that I should go with different CPA networks. I will manage to join to at least 5 larger Networks soon before start my new campaigns for CPA offers. I think I can test and compare and decide which networks are honest.
     
  6. justsomeguy

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    I too use MB and they shave like nothing else my method means i can find out just who has filled out what offer, and although they have it doesn't always turn into a lead or conversion. And no if they shaved then there going to keep it quiet too.
     
  7. Tom__

    Tom__ Junior Member

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    So MB does shave your leads? Would explain a bit, any other good CPA companies you guys use?
     
  8. justsomeguy

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    Yea either MB or I've heard the merchant also does it.. just starting with a few pm me for details.
     
  9. Quattro

    Quattro Junior Member

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    You'll find shaved leads in every network.. I think it's usually the merchant that shaves the leads. Since they have control on weather or not a specific email submit is a valid lead or not.
     
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  10. ipodtouchhackerisher

    ipodtouchhackerisher Senior Member

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    Yea they shaved me like no other at first and then they quit lol...

    Also keep in mind that free trials most of the time do not convert as good as

    email/zip submits
     
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  11. redtide1969

    redtide1969 BANNED BANNED Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Like previously stated, it's the merchants that do most of the shaving when leads aren't being converted. There's really no way around it. MB seems to be getting more complaints about this recently. Perhaps switch over to Hydra before running your next campaign and see if things get better.
     
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  12. overl00rd

    overl00rd Junior Member

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    Not in your wettest dream...
    Yep, definitely true. Once I promoted a free gift card email submit. Day one: $40 profit. Days after: $2/day. Then I worked things out to crank up my ROI for a month. Shaving off blood sucking keywords, and adjusting profitable keywords.

    Day 30: offer got pulled out, cuz the advertiser say my campaign is not converting for their end.

    That hurts. But it's OK, I moved on. So, what did I do? I joined other networks which that same advertiser put the same offer, then I run it from there.

    The punch line is here: in that other network with the same offer, the campaign description clearly states: pubs can not use these keywords... ... ..., which all of them are my most profitable keywords.

    Surprise.. surprise...

    The most important thing is, all of my keywords are highly targeted and not deceptive. Furthermore, the deceptive ones wouldn't convert well I guess.

    How targeted was the keyword? Imagine if the offer is 'dog food', then my keywords would be 'poodle snack'.

    ...and you get banned from using 'poodle snack'

    Welcome to the CPA marketing. If you don't cover your tracks well, especially the keywords, your money keywords grabbed by the advertiser, and banned you from using it ever. Then you know who'd run the money keywords next.

    Btw, have you read this sticky?
     
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