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Multi Niche Sites... Harder to rank..?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by spectrejoe, Sep 30, 2013.

  1. spectrejoe

    spectrejoe Supreme Member

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    Well lets talk about Multi Niche Sites..

    The benefits are obvious, easier to rank than completely new domains , easier to build authority, easier to turn your site into a powerfull website which can be used to boost other websites, people can find several niches in your site and thus making you profit more.

    However in terms of SEO...

    If we have 20 posts AKA 20 Niches on each post... You want to SEO them all.

    Lets say 20-30 backlinks to each a day , that's 400-600 backlinks per day which is WAY too many for any new / not old websites, and thus making it get penalized over time.



    So Multi Niche site = bad to rank at start but better in long term.

    Single niche site = easier to rank at start but not as good in long term.



    Correct or false?
     
  2. spectrejoe

    spectrejoe Supreme Member

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    still need info on this!
     
  3. Gyuman82

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    To be honest I don't see the benefit of a multi-niche site

    I also disagree with your point that "multi-niche" sites can "make you more profit"

    I never visit a site about say video game cheats, and then go "Oh f@*%, there's a great article about vegetable gardening!!!"

    So yeah, stick to single niche, and again I don't know why you think that a single niche site is "bad for the long-term".
     
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  4. iodalg

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    What's the point in building a "multi-niche site" ?
    I build authority sites, and with that in mind. I don't see any value in a multi-niche site.
    Now imagine you visit a site about SEO, you read a great article and at the end it says "you may be interested in our other articles".
    "Best Kitchen Cabinets" , "Amazing Airplanes", etc... How will you feel about the site and their authority? Even if it was a micro-site
    there must be some sort of authority to build trust, so people buy what you sell/promote.
     
  5. PrinceVisi

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    You are better off building a website for each keyword, like a Micro Niche Site!
     
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    Do you perhaps mean multi-micro-niche? If we're talking about wide niches, for example "gardening", "health", "technology", then I don't think ranking multiple niches on a single domain is easy or even beneficial.

    But if you mean related niches, such as "recipes", "dieting", and "weight loss" then, yes, it would help build authority. Figures like "30 backlinks a day" don't really help when it comes to making a plan, you need to determine the difficulty of each keyword and pick backlinks that will add value. Unless, of course, it's a churn and burn job, but if you're after a long-term authority site, spam won't really help much.
     
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  7. gullsinn

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    Sometimes a multi niche website can give you benefits for long term also some times a micro niche can give you benefit for long time but it depends on the quality of your website and also it depends on the strategy you used for link building.
     
  8. rob1977

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    For me the economics of a larger site made more sense. But as far as multi niches.all of my niches tend to relate to the overarching theme so for example if the theme was martial arts the niches would be each individual art, weapons, clothes etc.

    As far as seo for such a beast you really have to take it in logical natural looking steps. Start off with social shares and home page links. As this is how a site would naturally market itself. These kinds of links seem acceptable in a zero traffic environment. Once traffic starts to come you can then start looking at you analytics to see what is most popular.

    Start to then seo your most popular to get them ranked. Anyone looking at your sites profile could only interpret it as being natural. It takes time but then why else would you be building a large site if you didn't want to invest time.

    Once things start to rank you can then start ranking more and more pages, and some will rank naturally if your site structure is good and the juice flows well.
     
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    for me Single niche has been way more profitable when compared to multi niche site.
     
  10. SEOHULK

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    Each of these options has its pros and cons.
    Whatever you build will bring you money as long as you put in the hours and do it properly.
     
  11. formosa

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    we don't usually calculate that way ...
     
  12. Peter Ngo

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    Single niche infact is easier to rank, for multi niche is it more into white hat, adding content, and play with social media.
     
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    It depends on the content of the site if you're going to do multiniche. Like Gyuman said, don't go mixing two completely different categories.
     
  14. Techxan

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    Sites that cover multiple niches are hard to rank. This is because you fall back on general informational keywords.

    Such a site is called a wide site. A site with a narrower focus is called a deep site. Deep sites are much easier to rank, and make money from.

    Primarily this is because general terms are seldom action keywords.

    For instance if you have a site about car parts, people will search for the part with an specific "action" query (2007 ford 150 replacement seats), as opposed to a general "informational" query (ford replacement seats).

    The first query is more of an action query than the second.

    When you go wide, not only will search terms you will target not be generally action keywords, the site does not have a good of a focus for Google to determine what the site is about. In the example of car parts, at least the parts are all related, but if you were to have a page on your car parts page about leasing fishing boats, Google will have to try and figure what that page has to do with car parts.

    The fishing boats pages will not link to any related pages, since the rest of the pages are about car parts, and the car parts pages linking to the fishing pages will be linking to unrelated pages. This kills the strength of your internal linking juice flow, diluting your rank potential.

    Go wide if you can still stay within a narrow niche, say alternators for all cars. The narrow focus on alternators will help define to Google what the site is about, and the wide aspect of covering all types of car alternators is still a narrow approach because they fall into the same niche.

    If you go wide but stay closely related to a specific theme. its not bad, but to go wide with unrelated niches is much harder to rank. Wildly divergent niches makes it a lot worse.

    **************BUT****************

    With adsence, you want to go wide, because adsense sites are much better with informational querys. People will come to your site looking for information, find the information the page has, and either follow links for more information (and thereby click on your displayed ads), or enter into your sales funnel as a result of the information you gave them that brought them there in the first place.

    If you insist on going wide, use HTML/CSS and silo like a boss.
     
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  15. GamingOn

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    Stick to a single niche per website.
    Then you will be able to have many websites ^_^ and all good SEO on them all on-page and off-page.
     
  16. clpik

    clpik Regular Member Premium Member

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    Working on single niches seperately will bring results faster. Multi niche sites take longer to build up, but may bring more benefit in the long term. It's up to you.
     
  17. gullsinn

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    low quality micro niche are hard to rank. Only low quality
     
  18. edgematch

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    OP, of course it is hard to rank a site for 100s of unrelated keywords.
     
  19. TehEpidemick

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    It seems obvious, but 20 posts on 1 website. That means 1 post per keyword. Would you expect a website to rank off 1 post
     
  20. AntiHacker

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    You are just stupid,you know that,right?