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Moron AM - My vent

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by CasinoJack, Nov 14, 2010.

  1. CasinoJack

    CasinoJack BANNED BANNED

    Jan 17, 2009
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    Now is rare I get mad at someone trying to get some cash, I'm a sales guy also...However when asked about if I could use my callcenter for his offer...well I lost my cool.

    This is not real. Dont try to sell someone anything unless you have a clue or know a price...Plus on a Sunday after all!

    here is the conversation...not real.....2 days never got anywhere, and keep iin mind, he hit me up....

    Smart AM's would have said, yeah lets rock and roll!

    [11/13/2010 2:04:04 PM] ScottAdvertMarketing: hey
    [11/13/2010 2:04:06 PM] ScottAdvertMarketing: hows it going
    [11/13/2010 3:04:26 PM] casinojack: hey great!
    [11/13/2010 3:18:31 PM] ScottAdvertMarketing: are you able to get auto insurance traffic?
    [11/13/2010 3:23:09 PM] ScottAdvertMarketing: if so we are able to convert it
    [11/13/2010 3:36:23 PM] casinojack: yes i can
    [11/13/2010 3:36:26 PM] casinojack: how much?
    [11/13/2010 3:36:47 PM] ScottAdvertMarketing: how much?
    [11/13/2010 3:36:48 PM] ScottAdvertMarketing: meaning
    [11/13/2010 3:36:59 PM] casinojack: for the leads?
    [11/13/2010 3:38:11 PM] ScottAdvertMarketing: i dont buy leads if thats what you mean
    [11/13/2010 3:38:16 PM] ScottAdvertMarketing: you send traffic to us and we convert it
    [11/13/2010 3:39:01 PM] casinojack: I guess im confused, you want me to send you free leads?
    [11/13/2010 3:39:10 PM] ScottAdvertMarketing: no no
    [11/13/2010 3:39:45 PM] ScottAdvertMarketing: what i mean is if you can send auto traffic people interested in auto insurance offers we can convert it
    [11/13/2010 3:39:54 PM] ScottAdvertMarketing: into leads for you
    [11/13/2010 3:40:01 PM | Edited 3:40:06 PM] casinojack: so how much do I make?
    [11/13/2010 3:40:26 PM] ScottAdvertMarketing: how much traffic can you get daily
    [11/13/2010 3:40:44 PM] ScottAdvertMarketing: we are able to convert a consumer couple times over
    [11/13/2010 3:40:55 PM] casinojack: ok never mind...thanks
    [11/13/2010 3:41:08 PM] casinojack: I can gernate traffic on calssifieds
    [11/13/2010 3:41:14 PM] casinojack: I have over 100 car dealers as clients
    [11/13/2010 3:41:28 PM] casinojack: and when they ask me how much i tell them...Sorry man no time for games
    [11/13/2010 3:41:44 PM] casinojack: but so you know i genretae over 400 auto loan leads a day right now
    [11/13/2010 3:41:47 PM] casinojack: with social
    [11/13/2010 3:41:51 PM] casinojack: wish you well....
    [11/13/2010 3:41:54 PM] casinojack: have tog o
    [11/13/2010 3:43:17 PM] ScottAdvertMarketing: little confused here lol
    [11/13/2010 3:43:56 PM] ScottAdvertMarketing: im not looking for auto dealers
    [9:54:55 AM] casinojack: only confuision is what do i get paid and you said you dont want leads so not really sure what you wanted
    [10:06:24 AM] ScottAdvertMarketing: i basically need auto insurance traffic
    [10:06:31 AM] ScottAdvertMarketing: we convert the traffic for you
    [10:08:05 AM] casinojack: ok so if I d, ho wmuch do I get paid ?
    [10:08:13 AM] casinojack: how do I make money?
    [10:09:11 AM] ScottAdvertMarketing: well we are able to convert the lead across multiple offers, we are using a  call center, we can split 50-50, most auto ins offers pay between 8-12 a lead
    [10:09:40 AM] ScottAdvertMarketing: but we can take 1 consumer and get them to convert across 2-5 offers
    [10:09:44 AM] casinojack: so in other words, no per lead, is what you convert from a callcenter and I have to see what happens?
    [10:10:09 AM] casinojack: I do that already with a callcenter doing loan modifications
    [10:10:16 AM] casinojack: so I guess is the same thing?
    [10:10:24 AM] casinojack: brb
    [10:10:27 AM] casinojack: need some food
    [10:10:29 AM] ScottAdvertMarketing: ok
    [10:10:51 AM] ScottAdvertMarketing: yea probably similar to your loan mods your doing
    [10:19:01 AM] ScottAdvertMarketing: let me know when u come back
    [10:21:27 AM] ScottAdvertMarketing: i can bring my partner in to chat with us
    [10:37:50 AM] ScottAdvertMarketing: he can better explain the setup and our options
    [10:39:55 AM] ScottAdvertMarketing: we could work something out if you are interested
    [11:53:17 AM] ScottAdvertMarketing: hey
    [11:53:22 AM] ScottAdvertMarketing: you back?
    [1:00:49 PM] casinojack: yeah man I am just confused, not sure what you want to me and what i shoudl do
    [1:03:51 PM] ScottAdvertMarketing: basically looking for someone that can generate auto traffic, send it to our landing page, our call center then contacts the consumer and converts them into a lead
    [1:04:18 PM] ScottAdvertMarketing: we do car insurance offers such as 2insure4less.com, quotewizard.com etc
    [1:04:24 PM] casinojack: yeah okI get that
    [1:04:25 PM] casinojack: but gaian
    [1:04:39 PM] casinojack: you siad you dont pay for leads, so how do I get paid and know what I am getting paid on?
    [1:04:49 PM] casinojack: Why not just pay per call?
    [1:04:51 PM] casinojack: or per lead?
    [1:05:42 PM] ScottAdvertMarketing: you would get paid per lead, we would split the income made
    [1:05:52 PM] casinojack: ok so how much per lead?
    [1:06:23 PM] ScottAdvertMarketing: between $8-$12
    [1:06:57 PM] casinojack: based on volume?
    [1:07:14 PM] casinojack: what the creatve look like?
    [1:07:19 PM] ScottAdvertMarketing: depending on offers
    [1:07:44 PM] ScottAdvertMarketing: we are basically converting your traffic into leads for advertisers
    [1:08:01 PM] casinojack: ok can isee what they look like to see what I can do with them?
    [1:19:39 PM] ScottAdvertMarketing: see what? the signup form?
    [1:31:32 PM] ScottAdvertMarketing: http://www.carinsurancesavers.net/insurance_shortform.php
    [2:16:31 PM] ScottAdvertMarketing: what do u think
    [2:17:52 PM] casinojack: I think I rather us emy callcenter and see how much more I can make
    [2:20:00 PM] ScottAdvertMarketing: alright well thanks for the time wasting
    [2:20:24 PM] casinojack: wtf dude? You just watsed my time buy being an asswipe and not haveing your facts
    [2:20:25 PM] casinojack: **** you
    [2:20:31 PM] ScottAdvertMarketing: lol
    [2:20:35 PM] casinojack: why y9ou luaghing?
    [2:20:48 PM] casinojack: you moron haveing no clue how to make money ? probably be out of buisiness in a week
    [2:20:59 PM] ScottAdvertMarketing: lol we already do this dummy
    [2:21:01 PM] casinojack: instead of saying "hey yeah lets use your center and make cash"
    [2:21:08 PM] casinojack: **** you dick head
    [2:21:12 PM] casinojack: who isyour boss seriouis?"
    [2:21:15 PM] casinojack: calling me a dummy?
    [2:21:23 PM] ScottAdvertMarketing: i dont need your call center
    [2:21:31 PM] casinojack: i dont need you
    [2:21:34 PM] ScottAdvertMarketing: k cool
    [2:21:45 PM] casinojack: I cantr belive morons like you
    [2:21:48 PM] casinojack: ****er
    [2:21:56 PM] ScottAdvertMarketing: lol

    Ok had to vent, thanks!
  2. blackhatter123

    blackhatter123 Newbie

    Dec 26, 2008
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    For one i didn't ask to use your call center, please reread the chat. I said we have a center already in place and didn't need yours. You asked to see what was setup and i showed you. You then said i will use my own call center. So you basically wasted my time, i showed you what you asked for then you bailed.
    Here is the chat where i clearly stated i don't need your call center.
    1:03:51 PM] ScottAdvertMarketing: basically looking for someone that can generate auto traffic, send it to our landing page, our call center then contacts the consumer and converts them into a lead
    [1:04:18 PM] ScottAdvertMarketing: we do car insurance offers
    [1:04:24 PM] casinojack: yeah okI get that

    So where the hell do you see i asked to use your call center in there? Lol I simply asked if you have auto traffic that's it.

    Mods please remove this pointless thread thanks
    Last edited: Nov 14, 2010
  3. CasinoJack

    CasinoJack BANNED BANNED

    Jan 17, 2009
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    When you reached out to me, and I asked questions, is called selling, not wasting time...we could have done a deal, very possible, if you had a clue about what you were doing and forthright.

    You wasted my time by not giving straight answers...I am just venting...
  4. bamafan84

    bamafan84 Junior Member

    Jan 3, 2010
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    To make money for the preservation of my life
    Vent accepted, and it seems to be a form of hagling over apples and oranges...

    "Moron" asked for oranges, when he really should have asked for apples

    Casino offered apples and "Moron" F'ed it up

    Life happens, funny convo though...come on......

    "Can't we all just get along?" :D :D :D
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  5. wowhaxor

    wowhaxor Executive VIP Premium Member

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    I like how long it took to get an answer for a ballpark of what a lead would pay, seems like you asked that about 10 times :)
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  6. timshady

    timshady Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    LMAO JACK. Classic. Know the type too well. Happy new year hope to see ya soon
  7. d_nov

    d_nov Junior Member

    Feb 7, 2010
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    Toronto, ON, Canada
    Watch out for Scott, he's a dick
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  8. hgear

    hgear Power Member

    Feb 8, 2008
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    Stacks On Stacks Manager
    At Your Mom's House
    After reading this horse shit it remind me of all the chat's I used to get.
    Until I turned that shiz off. I just lost 10 iq points and scott your a dick!
    get to the point when you hit people up and have your numbers ready
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