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Money earned all reversed by publisher

Discussion in 'Affiliate Programs' started by seoadvent, Mar 14, 2019.

  1. seoadvent

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    i got 9k + usd reversed from my account
    when i was scaling and started making money the advertiser pulled the offer and then before payment date on PF all my earnings were reversed.
    the PF team said they are working on it to help me.
    I hve been waiting since end of feb , though many say to just forget it , but i still hold on to a bit of hope to what Luke mentioned that they are working on it .

    the offer was a gambling offer casino type .
     
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    its no longer on PF already they took it off .
     
  3. Kratos168

    Kratos168 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    I have $64,000 reversed by Golden Lion. $38,500 reversed by 1xbet.
    But coincidentally I am also promoting 1xbet directly so I know their inhouse account manager. So I took my case to him and ask what the hell is going on. So he told me this seems like an affiliate's work. Not from the direct advertiser 1xbet.
    1xbet never pay on CPA basis and only does revenue sharing.
    So in this case, this affiliate is taking a bet that he will get customers who gamble frequently with high turnover. Or he is outright scammer who wants to bait CPA marketer into promoting on his behalf for free.

    I took a bad hit as well so my advice to you is not to hope too much into this. Anything beyond 60days would not be recovered no matter what the CPA network assures you about. Been through too much of this shit as publisher. Anything that ask for FTD, stay damn far away from it no matter how high is the payout.
     
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  4. seoadvent

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    thanks Kratos for your advise . btw the offer that i did was on PF for 2 years , no one seemed to promte it , after i did and scaled it up , they pulled the offer and then reversed all the money .

    ps - FTD = First Time Deposit ? right ? thanks
     
  5. Kratos168

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    Yes first time deposit. Most likely this advertiser is just an affiliate to the casino offer. He don't have a deep pocket. So when you scale, he cannot afford to pay. So he need find a way to complain so as not to pay. I do blackhat stuffs too but as long as advertiser pays, CPA network just keep their mouth shut and never complains about fake traffic. Even for PF, currently I am doing one of their offer with proxies yet I am still getting paid for 8 months counting. The only difference is that the credit card payment details are real as I hired girls to do cyber baiting of horny guys to surrender their payment details for more naked exposure. No big deal as long as there is no chargeback, no complains.
     
  6. seoadvent

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    wow something i learnt good here .... thank u for
    sharing ... i also learnt alot doing the campaign , even tho i didnt make money but i something i got is experience and knowledge .
    really cool for u to share . appreciate it
     
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    Quite correct. Shitlists only relate to services bought/sold through BHW, that began on BHW.
     
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    In this case, i think a lounge thread will be good. Recently I place my warning as well about a CPA network but not its offer (as I am running the campaign with the advertiser directly now).
     
  11. Vampirion

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    If the network doesn't take the hit for you but instead just reverse your leads, get the hell away from there.
    Literally, the only reason to use a network is to be sure you get paid (as long as you don't send fraudulent leads ofc).
    Otherwise, you can just go direct and make 20% more.

    If your AM doesn't catch the bullet - fuck that network
    I had issues like this before, my AM told me he needed to reverse about $20k worth of leads.
    I told him it wasn't my problem and these guys had to tell me before I scaled up
    Till this day I am sure he wasn't getting paid by the advertiser, however, he did not reverse my leads and just took the bullet himself.
     
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    Publisher ? You probably mean here advertiser reversed, which was listed in that CPA network ? Correct ? I simply couldn't understand why people just do not go directly here with all that risks for not being paid, they use 20% in average and they not pay to gain even more;)
     
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    but the network is reputable , as per mentioned i also feel that they should have helped me , as the affiliate . i didnt send fraudulent leads ( the conversions were from 7-8 different well known, reputable traffic sources) wow , so good to hear that yr AM is very professional and kind to have taken the bullet himself

    . wish mine helped me too :(
    i am still thinking of what to do as my AM has changed , previous AM was very very unresponsive especially after the reversal of leads .


    yes i wrote wrongly ,advertiser reversed which was listed in cpa network
    i dont understand yr statement "they use 20% in average and they not pay to gain even more;)"
     
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    You always have to test it first.. thats sad cause somtimes there are limited offers.

    If happened to me too. At least they paid me 50% or more of the actual offer. But it takes time to test and see if they are legit.
     
  15. seoadvent

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    frankly I trust the network Peerfly , and I didnt know that the advertiser could just reverse leads without valid reason .
    especially when i put in so much work and effort and also money
     
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    When you see all the scam offers listed on all the network to rip off the credit card of the visitors; we must expect and prepared to be fucked by these people too
     
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    i guess HoNeYBiRD has clarified this issue.

    Most affiliate marketer's spend lot of money (that normally they cannot afford to overlook if, thing's goes bad) from their end's promoting & sponsoring affliate product's. when they are yet to receive pay atleast for their time or resources.

    I'm not saying is wrong to sponsore affiliate link's ..ecc but, ensure you know what you are doing.
    Is worthless to promote 2 loaf of bread & 2 fishes via adword's if, the total net worth is $5

    Thanks
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  18. Vampirion

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    Switch networks and never come back to these guys again. Plenty of networks out there remember that.
    There's a demand for affiliates, not a demand for networks.