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monetizing ppv

Discussion in 'Pay Per View' started by bizzykehl, Jan 16, 2009.

  1. bizzykehl

    bizzykehl Newbie

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    Hi everyone, this is actually my first post on blackhatworld. Nice to meet you all.

    I've been with mediatraffic for a little while and have tried literally everything I can think of to monetize this traffic. I've bid on strictly domains, niche-relevant keywords, signup pages for specific sites, etc. All the while split testing 5-10 offers at a time on each campaign, both with landing pages and without.

    I even tried converting google custom searches. Nothing seems to be hitting. Nothing.

    Comments/suggestions? Has anyone actually had success with mediatraffic or is it all just buzz? If you have a kind heart i'd appreciate a pm or two, or maybe we can discuss what it is I've been doing wrong.

    Regards!
    bizzykehl
     
  2. premiumsource

    premiumsource Senior Member

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    Wealthy is offering a PPV coaching program so you might check it out. In the first part of the course he will give you a working blackhat PPV method and later on will work on white hat ones as well. Here is the thread: PPV Coaching Program
     
  3. bizzykehl

    bizzykehl Newbie

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    Yeah, ha ha- I actually sent my application in for that already. I'm not really akin to spending thousands of dollars to sign up for a forum, though.
     
  4. deadzed

    deadzed Registered Member

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    What have you tried so far? I'm about to put in my application for Traffic Vance and am looking to get started with freebies / email submits... I've heard it's not profitable to try and sell actual products this way.
     
  5. bizzykehl

    bizzykehl Newbie

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    please see above
     
  6. deadzed

    deadzed Registered Member

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    I meant what kind of offers were you testing ... ppv section is pretty dead here, thought you might want to share
     
  7. internext2

    internext2 Registered Member

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    I tested multiple offers that I thought would really work on PPV and none of them really did seem to work. And I tried to make them super targeted, but no love. A couple of years ago I did make some money on Zango promoting inurance and education offers for example. Like for the education offers I put all the education sites as triggers, and that worked for a while, but not so well, and wasn't super profitable.
     
  8. Madeezy

    Madeezy Registered Member

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    Its good that you tested multiple offers that's one KEY to PPV.
    The key question I have after reading your post is...how much traffic did you pass by those offers and how many targets di you have in place...keyword and url?

    I also started ppv with Media raffic and I also lost money...2k in fact.

    I thought it was dead in the water I had tried many attempts and methods with them and that 2k

    Here is my learning for you now...I should have spent that 2K on far far less promotions and used far far more targets and 6 offers max, then change the bad ones with new ones as you go. ie Take 2 out place in a new 2 to make it 6 all up again....all being rotated and all of them related to the same niche.

    With PPv unless you luck in the Trick to it, is high numbers of url and keywords I mean large numbers...something like 5000 to 10,000. Yep:)

    If your $$'s are low then try with a minimum of say 2000 to start with.

    YOU MUST use that money 'to see all / as many of the poor targets fast' and then pick out the possibles and the winners.

    You will see a lot of views and a fair bit of money go through the account with the high target numbers...but you will have far greater ability to find the winners. Simple as that.

    You now have your targets down to the winers you found qnd also know well...the offers that work best with those targets...YOUR READY to RUN with it....you now place all that money again into the campaigne but this time its going to bring in profits...you will quickly see your prev "RESEARCH COST" return! and return and return :)

    Now open it up with MORE TEST Targets and rinse and repeat with those...BUT now its with profits money...just keep doing it till your comfortable the campg is running well and looking good.

    Next just do that again with another offer and camg...once thats done.

    Now set the first one up on another ppv trafic source...this time use your 'profitable set' first ...then... Chances are you will come out winning but test it with far less money because your targets are allready determined :)

    If its not working with the new traffic source then swop the key words back over and place in the ones that did not work Too well with mediatraffic and ad some additional targets. Test and Rinse as prev.

    Do that kind of approach and you will have the best opportunity to make PPV work very very well.

    My compliments to your determination.

    Madeezy.
     
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  9. nyxxo

    nyxxo Registered Member

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    youve just got to be creative bro. i wouldnt suggest trying to sell anything.... keep it free and your conversions will defintiely improve. the type of people willing to install adware usually arent the type of people trying to buy something. think about it.... you install adware to get access to something for free. whereas people like us would NEVER install adware and are actually willing to pay for things we want. capiche? :)
     
  10. Duberz

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    i'm surprised you have such bad luck with ppv. I more than double my investments as a rule of thumb.

    trafficvance is by far the best ppv, get a url scraper, use prosper202 to track, install their adware to see what others are promoting, rotate offers using a url rotar and keep the winners and ditch the losers.

    I direct link with tracking until i find a good offer and then presell after trying to double conversion. Basically see what others are doing and improve it.

    Members over at ********** like me make money on ppv first then move to msn for cpc etc.

    trafficvance first, media traffic second, addon and zango i barely ever get to
     
  11. Duberz

    Duberz Newbie

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    not true. its usually the kids that install the games and later their parents are the ones surfing that get the ads
     
  12. visualmagic

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    Its hard to get traffic in any real volume if you want conversions - you need to be super targeted, like a free grocery offer on a food.com sort of site. Really laser target and yeah, rotate until you get one working for you before ramping up.
     
  13. McLovin

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    I installed GameVance adware on my computer, and no ad's ever popup..

    Anyone know why?
     
  14. photoads

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    Yeah I did the same - I wondered if it was because I am in Canada?
     
  15. codine

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    im looking for a refer for TV as well ...