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Monetizing mini blog networks?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by ShadeDream, Mar 18, 2013.

  1. ShadeDream

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    How do you guys monetize your mini blog networks?

    These days if you want to stay on top of the game, you pretty much have to have some form of a blog network, large or small it will definitely help with your SEO efforts. The only issue I see is with the monetization of these blogs. You will obviously have them hosted on separate hosting accounts so that G can't connect them to you, but what about monetizing them? You definitely can't use AdSense on them if you use AdSense on your main sites. You can't really use the likes of Amazon either as it leaves your ID behind and all your sites can be linked through that. ClickBank allows you to have multiple affiliate IDs, but not really an ideal option, can't always use it to monetize your sites. AdSense alternatives? Not sure. Or do you guys cloak your links and just use the likes of Amazon?
     
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    I ran about 1500 domains on seohosting.com, their 125 class-c IP package.

    From experience I can tell you that in-and-of themselves, blogs hosted on different IP addresses will do absolutely nothing for ranking a money site. For instance, if you have your money site for a niche, and then create 125 blogs on 125 different class-c IP addresses, hidden whois, proper DNS setup (dns1. and dns2. subdomains set up for DNS records) etc. ... just the blogs with well spun content won't push your main domain an inch.

    Its not until you actually build up the domains, get each of the domains their own backlinks, their own PR, that they start pushing your money site up.

    I've done extensive hosting of blogs on free domains too. In my opinion, free blogs are better (and not just because they're free!)

    A fresh blogger blog, a fresh wordpress blog, out of the box ... will rank better than a fresh domain hosted through SEO hosting, without a doubt there's no competition. Google's EMD update was the last straw for me on SEO hosting, it used to be I could count on these SEO hosted blogs to actually produce their own leads and traffic, and with Google's EMD update it made it virtually pointless to SEO host.

    When you put a blog on a free hosted blog platform, it absorbs some of the authority that the main domain has. On the other hand, new websites you buy and then SEO host have a period of sandboxing to endure, and are far more sensitive about backlinks getting them penalized.

    My advice, forget about SEO hosting and build up free blogs. Unless you're buying up expired domains that have high PR and want to point articles on them to the same money site.
     
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    Answering your questions how to monetize them ...

    You'll want to have that figured out ahead of time. You can create stuff to promote amazon, or clickbank, or collect leads. Obviously you're not going to want to monetize with adsense. My past networks were mainly EMDs that collected leads and functioned to prop up a more competitive EMD domain that also collected leads.

    Its a lot more difficult to do this with EMDs now. The amount of extra effort it takes to rank your EMD domains now, because of Google's EMD update, makes the value of an EMD much less.

    You know its ridiculous when you start to promote an EMD by making free web2.0s and the free web2.0s you're using for promotion all rank way higher than the EMD you're trying to promote.
     
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    Both free blogs and domains hosted on seohosting does the same job and my question is while creating free blogs will you use a single account for all your seo campaigns or create new each time also you use a vpn to sign up for free blogs or private/shared proxies and how you avoid footprints ?? i know free blogs will help us a lot in seo but have you tested free blogs with hosted blogs ?? and is there any use of buying premium memberships in free blogs and sorry for being noob.And one more thing if i sign up for free blogs whether its recommened to use the same domain name for all blogs eg : username.squidoo.com,username.webs.com and so on ??
     
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    Reusable blogs for the win (within the same niche). I'd like to answer your question about the avoiding footprints but there's so many different out there ... I plan on resurrecting my free blogs thread sometime in the near future. It's a lot of work to weed out the bad and only include quality free blogs that allow SEOs to do their thing.

    What you mean tested free blogs with hosted blogs?

    I would not recommend paying for blog services. Just use the free ones.

    IMO it doesn't matter. You've got to streamline your process for mass production. Worrying about whether someone will manually inspect your domain, compare the subdomain and ban you based on that ... if they really want they can find you anyways (not that hard to reverse-engineer a SEO campaign by looking at backlinks of the destination site).
     
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    That's actually the sort of thing I have in mind. Both the use of free sites and self hosted sites. For each major money site I was thinking of creating a mini blog network which would consist of no more than 5-10 sites, at first. I would build those sites up with unique content and backlinks from free sites. I would try to create some trust around them before using them. In terms of hosting, I would use shared accounts.

    Free blogs can only take you as far? Though that's definitely something that I'm working on as well.

    That's what I'm trying to figure out. The only issue I have with the likes of Amazon is they still leave a footprint behind, and if I have Amazon only sites hosted along side of my AdSense sites, well that kind of creates footprints. Lead collection sounds like a great idea though, didn't really think of this before, not that I didn't know, but I just didn't think of it as a viable solution.
     
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    I like to create catalog sites. In my mind, there's nothing more perfect than a niche that has between 10k to 100k products, representing a ton of keywords (not only do you have the products to rank for, but also the categories and subcategories that represent those products).

    The key there is a whole ton of low-hanging-fruit. That is what I will usually chase after with the free blog model. Using free blogs to rank for those keywords, plus ranking a money site for those keywords, works great.

    I also chase after highly competitive terms. Though I will use free blogs in this method as well, they represent maybe 10% of the total effort. Difficult keywords involve actual networking in the niche, whitehat, greyhat and blackhat tactics. Private blog network for this is a must (think: expired domains with high PR) ... but I don't SEO host them.
     
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    The advantage of your own domains is that no one (except g$$gle) can ban/remove them. I'm little worried that a carefully built, unique, backlinked tumblr blog can be banned anytime.
    What's your thoughts on that?
    D.
     
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    I believe amazon allows u to have more than 1 tracking id. when you sign in to amazon, look near the top left corner where it says "signed in as"...and below that will say "tracking id", which will have a "manage" link next to it. click it and add a new tracking id.

    never tried it but I believe it's possible.
     
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    Anything you do online is a risk. Making an "authority site" is an enormous risk, Google can arbitrarily decide to change algorithm and all your work/efforts/investment/profit is gone.

    Whether its tubmlr banning you, or Google pushing you out ... IM is a neverending, constant swim upstream. You can take it lying down, or you can fight back and replace every banned account with 10 fresh ones. Stay ahead of the curve, throw a ton of mud at the wall to see what sticks and constantly look for new baskets to put your eggs in.
     
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