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MNS not ranking well even after linkwheels/wiki/social bookmarking

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by WhitePwn, Mar 14, 2012.

  1. WhitePwn

    WhitePwn BANNED BANNED

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    I have a MSN that I created around 2 months back.My main keyword has 4k Global searches and 2.4k local US searches.I didnt do any offsite seo on it for the first 15 days and let it sit there,get indexed and see some natural SERP movement.My site moved upto page two,with overall rank of 16 for my main keyword.

    Then I thought to do some real SEO and buy some services here on BHW.I bought 500 wiki links and 500 social bookmarking for my money site and 20 .edu high pr backlinks.Then I blasted the wiki links and social bookmarks with SB blasts,doing 3-4k each day for 2 weeks.I added all the links to linklicious and let it ping them at 50 links/day.After that I used my existing dripfeed account and dripped it with 25 comments and 25 profile backlinks each day.

    I used to check my Serp daily,it went from page 2 to page 4,then 5 then 6 then came back to page 2 and then to page 1 at #5,stayed there 2-3 days then went back to page 5-6 kept there for a few days swept down to page god knows what with overall ranking of freaking #356!

    It currently ranks at 56.
    Now I'm confused,I did w/e I could and I hope I did it right,but the MNS isnt ranking anywhere close as I expected it to.The keyword I'm targeting has only 1 EMD on the first page,no other EMDs have been even registered! only one site has the keyword in the url or title (only the EMD site has it).I think its pretty low competition with overall 40k results in google.

    Can someone tell me what went wrong? I dont think I'll be continuing with this MNS,I'll just let it be where it is and see if it ever moves up and in the mean time I'll concentrate on other MNS and make some new ones but I'd really like to know what went wrong so that I dont repeat that again.
     
  2. Cloudbacklinks

    Cloudbacklinks Regular Member

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    Try dripping blog posts from high PR networks, that should help.
     
  3. ivanpenev

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    Also web 2.0 and article directories. From my experience the wiki sites are if not 100% 95% nofollow. For the web 2.0 build less maybe 30-50 but as a 2nd tier add social bookmarks, forum profiles, wikis and as 3rd maybe SB blast, so these links become stronger.
     
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    Patience, sounds like you may have done a bit too much too fast. Hows your on page SEO?
     
  5. BassTrackerBoats

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    You're certainly dancing but I do not think you are diverse enough in your backlinking... the other thing you do want to do is to add content to the site and backlink the pages that you create with that new content.
     
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  6. WhitePwn

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    That was what I was gonna do but then I read threads that blog posts arent working that well nowadays after the panda so I was thining of waiting for a few months and then going back to them.

    I forgot to mention that in the thread,I do have 20 web 2.0 properties linking directly to my site,havent blasted them though.

    Probably true.I think I'll be more careful next time.

    I have about 6 pages of content and since its a very low competition keyword and low search volume,I think I'll wait before investing more into the content (I outsource articles,cant write good articles myself :p)
    Also,I was thinking of buying your rank checker...looks like mine isnt accurate enought,just checked manually and one ofnmy sites ranks #5 for my main keyword while it shows #11 in my rank checker.
     
  7. Envyliciouz

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    Add more backlinks. Add diversify, create all types of backlinks for your keywords. If you are not ranking high but you are seeing some movements that means you need to build more backlinks.
     
  8. WhitePwn

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    Any more insights on what should be done and what not?
     
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    msn (yahoo) sucks
     
  10. florflor

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    I am no backlinking expert but I believe it's better to start with simple things like social bookmarks.

    If your site's first backlinks are wiki and edu links then it doesn't look normal. It would be more normal to have some social proof in the form of social bookmarks first.

    Then the better backlinks would come later.
     
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  11. WhitePwn

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    Hmm.Pretty logical.I would to hear some SEO expert's view on this.
     
  12. DannyBoy7

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    "Then I blasted the wiki links and social bookmarks with SB blasts,doing 3-4k each day for 2 weeks"

    I think this is your problem, does this look like its being done by a humans hand ?, google are anything but stupid, you really have to slow down and take your time with these things.

    I understand that all your comments wont be found at the same time but if your unlucky and google crawls a good few of these sites in the same day then its gonna raise a huge red flag.

    I seen the question a couple of times asked about your pages SEO, you got all the basics sorted ??, H1, Title, url with keyword in it ??
    Sorry to ask but people do forget these things sometimes
     
  13. WhitePwn

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    The onpage seo is all good.I've made sure that I include all the basic things.
    As for SB blasts,what would be a good time to blast the 1st tier backlinks with sb?
     
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    try to submit unique artciles to articles directory then give backlink blast to that link..
    so blast your websites link.. that will harm your website
     
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    Yup, you did it all too fast, now slow down and just keep blasting your web2.0 and articles you submit to article directories