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Metrics like: Ahrefs DR, Moz DA, Majestic TF are BULLSHIT

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by jefis, Sep 18, 2019.

  1. jefis

    jefis Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    I'm checking stats on hundreds of sites on a daily basis.
    Often times I find anomalies that are absolute nonsense.

    Here I'm going to show how much bullshit are these three metrics.
    Many of my clients seem to care about them as if they are the only thing that matters (they doesn't).

    I sell expired domains, and customers often ask me to find only sites with stats like DA 20+ or TF 20+. Such demands make me angry because the metrics are only indicative, and it doesn't mean that sites below these metrics are bad.

    Let's start with examples:

    Ahrefs DR
    Website: restaurans-nearme.us
    DR: 40
    DA: 1
    TF: 1
    Referring domains: 2
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    The domain has only TWO backlinks and only one of them is d0-foll0w, but it's DR is 40!!
    DR is so high because there aren't that many outgoing d0-f0llow links from Microsoft, so Ahrefs sees that as a very strong backlink, thus it gives it such a high metric. Moz and Majestic don't agree.

    Moz DA
    Website: wood*******.com (won't disclose, not registered)
    DR: 1.2
    DA: 23
    TF: 8
    Referring domains: 22
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    Very high DA, Good TF, but DR only 1.2. Why is that?
    Backlinks come from related websites to woodworking. Most of the backlinks come from forums. Ahrefs considers this a shit domain, Moz and Majestic don't agree.

    Majestic TF
    Website: eve*****.fm (won't disclose, not registered)
    DR: 21
    DA: 22
    TF: 0
    Referring domains: 36
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    Majestic thinks this site is shit. Ahrefs and Moz don't agree.
    Backlinks are good - editorial links from strong domains. No spam there.
    I would buy this site in an instant. But customers who look at TF won't even consider it.


    What are your thoughts about all this?
     
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  2. Pergamon

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    What do you rank as most important metric? organic traffic?
     
  3. jefis

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    For domains? DR, DA and TF are only indicators. You need to dig deeper to see if the backlinks are spammy or they come from editorial articles, forums, etc.
    Then you have to check Internet Archive whether the site hasn’t been used for PBN’s or some other spam.
     
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  4. James1080p

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    Agreed. The only one I keep tabs on is Moz's (out of years of habit).
    I have Ahrefs, Majestic, Moz and SEMrush and besides Moz's DA I don't pay any attention to what my paid tools's metrics scores are as they're all over the place (especially Majestic's).
     
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  5. KelvyTheBlacky

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    Should we therefore pay more attention to a site's DR rating?
     
  6. Meddie

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    The most important bullshit is to not spam BHW users on PM I guess...
     
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    Me too :mad::mad:
     
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  8. jefis

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    Thats irrelevant to the topic.
    If you’ve been interested in my service, I’ve updated you with the latest info.
     
  9. Meddie

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    You think you talk with a 10 years old boy surfing miniclip.com ? I will report you now, I ignore you before but you have big balls I see. Wtf you think my PM is a newsletter mail?


    @blacktrilby - I advise you to report it as well, otherwise, he will keep spamming us on PM I guess.
     
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  10. BBulldog

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    I reported this as well. As to you @jefis : Did we ever subscribe to your PM newsletter? Imagine if every seller on BHW sent you newsletters because you "showed interest". You really should know better than this seeing as you've been a member for 9 years.
     
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    Nothing is really important. Just stick with one to guide you. Working with those metrics at once would make you look stupid.
     
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    1000% agree. I use ahrefs mostly to check the backlink profile.
     
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  13. GregFromMoonsy

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    @jefis

    I am pretty sure that is something wrong with links to domain which have TF 0 and CF 10.
    If you would like, I can check this domain for you in Majestic and publish the results here, just send me PM with the domain name.

    Ahrefs and Moz do not include trust metrics, they count just links as old Pagerank which now include TRUST.
    As you also mentioned, to get high DR just few links is needed and don't matter they are good or bad.

    Best regards,
    Greg.