1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

[Method] Painstakingly Slow and Disgustingly Honest Method of Making little Money Sure

Discussion in 'Associated Content & Writing Articles' started by Piratematerial, Mar 7, 2013.

  1. Piratematerial

    Piratematerial Registered Member

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2012
    Messages:
    89
    Likes Received:
    40
    This is meant for people who are mainly good at writing, are broke(no money to invest) and want to build up a long term sustainable income.

    About six months ago I made a drastic career switch. I chose to get into IM and I joined Blackhatworld. I knew nothing and was broke. This month I will finally make over $1000.
    If Squidoo didn't get Google in November and again in January I'm sure it would have been way more.

    My method (although I'm always experimenting) has been to write articles for web 2.0 sites like Squidoo and Hubpages.

    Key is to write every day
    Key is to hit long tail keywords
    Key is to leverage the domain authority of Squidoo and Hubpages
    Key is to leverage the internal backlinking capabilities of these sites
    Key is to game their payout systems while keeping within Terms of Services
    Key is to seo optimize on page
    Key is to write about stuff you like, so you will write more
    Key is to link between your articles
    Key is to be trustworthy and honest towards all your readers
    Key is to put the minimum amount of time in to create something that is special to at least a few
    Key is to write untill you have traffic
    Key is to optimize articles that have traffic to convert
    Key is to extract maximum $ from the time you have
    Key is to make(DO) mistakes and learn

    Over the last six months I have learned countless valuable lessons. Would I do it again? Yes... but different! There are many things I wouldn't try or do different. To be honest I'm still learning every day. Here on this forum and from my work and experiences.

    I'm 100% sure that you can do it on your own too, even if you are broke now and know nothing about SEO. Use these revenue share platforms to rank while you do what you do best: Write!

    3 Simple Steps:

    Step 1 is platform selection. All the platforms out there have different strengths. In most cases I would recommend Squidoo or Hubpages. PM or post your interests and what you like to write about and I will give you advice on platform selection.

    Step 2 is getting to work, start to accumlate age on your urls and have your keywords out there

    Step 3 is optimizing your articles for maximum conversion (clicks or sales or whatever)

    Hope this helps to open new avenues for everyone who is currently writing on assignment.

    Ask questions here or in PM!
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 8
  2. Parallax

    Parallax Registered Member

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2012
    Messages:
    87
    Likes Received:
    71
    Awesome thread idea. I've played around a little on both Squidoo and Hubpages, but not to a point of seeing any money from it. What are your biggest earners in your articles, Amazon / Ebay / or other affiliate links? Amazon modules seem ineffective at best compared to text links, but I've never confirmed that with anyone. Also, about how many articles do you have up?

    Thanks for your time and congratulations on your success!
     
  3. Piratematerial

    Piratematerial Registered Member

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2012
    Messages:
    89
    Likes Received:
    40
    I have about 340 articles up. The top 20% brings in 80% of the money. There are many I would, with what I know now, never have written :)

    Amazon is very important to me but it really depends what you like writing about where your money is going to come from.

    Determine what you like to write about and find well converting affiliates to match. If you don't know go with Amazon it's easy and they convert.

    I have some text links that earn well but for me the majority comes from product displays. Text links can be very benificial I think, but they don't fit my content well usually. They are on my todo list to explore more.
     
    • Thanks Thanks x 3
  4. Parallax

    Parallax Registered Member

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2012
    Messages:
    87
    Likes Received:
    71
    Wow, that is a ton of writing. Also a surprising ratio of earnings, I expected a more even distribution. Guess that makes sense that you learn what works as you go along usually. Thanks for the informative answer.
     
  5. BrianKade001

    BrianKade001 BANNED BANNED

    Joined:
    Aug 25, 2011
    Messages:
    359
    Likes Received:
    390
    I haven't tried this method, so I can't make a judgement about it, but since you've done your basic research and achieved positive results, then it's certainly worth trying.
    Writers need to particularly be smart enough to come up with unique titles and topics in order to so many articles. Although it's not everyone's cup of tea, but I would certainly love to give it a try. Next week I will allocate one of my writers on this task and see how things turn out.
     
  6. Piratematerial

    Piratematerial Registered Member

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2012
    Messages:
    89
    Likes Received:
    40
    I don't know what your strength is? But I would supply your writer with keywords with very little competition and have him work them in correctly on-page. And yes employing good headlines (copyblogger is always a great resource) http://www.copyblogger.com/magnetic-headlines/ Will help tremendously with on-platform traffic (as can good intro graphics) and the traffic you siphon from these platforms is of excellent quality.

    It could be even more unbalanced paralax, but even pages that don't make anything or very little do serve as strong backlinks for the pages that do make money. I have no idea what would happen if I gave up my 80% worst pages but I think my 80% of earnings from the top pages would not remain stable.
     
  7. phpbuilt

    phpbuilt Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

    Joined:
    May 16, 2011
    Messages:
    1,650
    Likes Received:
    5,208
    Occupation:
    $ from websites I own.
    Location:
    putting monkeys in paypal
    Curious if you do any SEO at all to your hubpages/squidoo to rank them, or if they just rank by themselves with your linking from one article to another?
     
  8. Piratematerial

    Piratematerial Registered Member

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2012
    Messages:
    89
    Likes Received:
    40
    Not really any SEO. Most of what I did was a waste of time learning what is a waste of time in SEO :)
     
  9. imserious

    imserious Senior Member

    Joined:
    Mar 27, 2009
    Messages:
    946
    Likes Received:
    560
    This is an old thread but i have a few questions

    Do you make money from the advertising programs of squidoo and hubpages i.e. are you paid by squidoo and hubpages directly or you get paid directly by merchants like amazon?

    Have you tried revenue sharing sites like infobarrell etc which puts your adsense id for a specific share of impressions?

    How do you go about doing your keyword research?
     
  10. blackfatcat

    blackfatcat Registered Member

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2012
    Messages:
    63
    Likes Received:
    31
    Occupation:
    Online Hustler
    Location:
    Cyberspace
    I am rather curious, OP - how many lenses and hub pages do you have at present that generate this income, and roughly what (percentage) portion comes from adsense? Thanks for a very interesting thread.
     
  11. Piratematerial

    Piratematerial Registered Member

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2012
    Messages:
    89
    Likes Received:
    40
    accidentally double posted
     
    Last edited: Mar 28, 2013
  12. Piratematerial

    Piratematerial Registered Member

    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2012
    Messages:
    89
    Likes Received:
    40
    Squidoo is very flexible on what way you want to share in the revenue. Pay some attention to how the system to optimize your revenue share %. You are allowed to use your own affiliate links but you can also opt to use theirs to circumvent being in a state that doesn't allow you to be an affiliate for example.

    I have an infobarrel account but to be honest have no articles up on that site yet. The system is a little different but I think not too far off from Hubpages. Though hubpages also allows you to opt into their ad program (as a big advertiser they can charge per impression etc and higher rates, which is beneficial)

    For keyword research I use market samurai. Note that when you affiliate market you don't need the kind of traffic adsense requires to make some money.

    At this point, things are moving in the right direction, I have ~350 articles up. In my adsense account there is very little activity but from the adpools of both sites I get about ~$250. I'm not focussed on it, although it's certainly a viable strategy.
     
  13. amarande

    amarande Registered Member

    Joined:
    May 14, 2012
    Messages:
    60
    Likes Received:
    18
    I used to use market samurai for keyword research, until I realized the keywords it gave me were complete poo. There are better programs for keyword research. :)
     
  14. Mobileedge

    Mobileedge Newbie

    Joined:
    Dec 19, 2012
    Messages:
    29
    Likes Received:
    9
    what do you recommend and use
     
  15. amarande

    amarande Registered Member

    Joined:
    May 14, 2012
    Messages:
    60
    Likes Received:
    18
    Keyword Project Manager