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[Method] Never get screwed out of a Paypal payment again!

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by Moosey, Jul 26, 2013.

  1. Moosey

    Moosey Senior Member

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    Not sure if this has been shared before, but I've seen people ask about it recently so I thought it would be a good idea post it.

    If you're a digital service provider like me, chances are you've been screwed out of a payment before. After being screwed many times over the years, I've come up with a method that has prevented this from happening completely, it's nothing special and doesn't involve rocket science but IT WORKS.

    When you receive the payment, make sure you're eligible for seller protection (the buyer has provided you with billing and shipping details). You can confirm this by viewing the payment details. If it says ineligible, refund the payment and tell the buyer to send another payment, but with a verified shipping address. If they make a big deal about this, chances are they have intentions to scam you.

    Next you will print out an invoice, put it in an envelope and ship it to the buyers address. You will have a tracking number, and if the buyer tries to reverse the payment, or claims unauthorized payment, you can provide Paypal with the tracking number to prove that you've sent out the product that has been paid for. This will ensure you will not lose out on the money.

    An alternate to this method is to create an invoice from the Paypal interface. Again, sorry if this has been already posted. Good luck guys, take care and make sure to always cover your ass!
     
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  2. cahoud

    cahoud Registered Member

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    Nice share :)
     
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    This is a good method but OP if we are going to receive payments from the same guy over and over dont you think the person can reply to paypal saying this guy provides me web design services and blah blah etc?
     
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    Thanks for the advice. Its just common sense but I've never thought to do that before. Just last month I got scammed out of a fairly large amount of money so I'm definitely going to do this from now on.
     
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  5. TimeToGo

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    Where can I view that?
     
  6. Moosey

    Moosey Senior Member

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    Just click "View Details" for the payment and you'll see it on the right side of the page when it opens.

    Paypal doesn't care what you are selling, as long as you have a tracking number to prove you've sent something tangible you are fine.
     
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  7. TedNugent

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    This is pretty cool. Nice share :D
     
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  8. Junkfood00

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    Doesn't quite work.. chargebacks are inevitable. If the buyer loses the dispute, most of them will go through the chargeback route.
     
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    yeah i lost 2k last mont this will definately be a good start
     
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  11. Moosey

    Moosey Senior Member

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    Like I said, as long as you can prove you sent something tangible, Paypal will take the hit, even in the buyer does a chargeback.
    This method has worked for me many times, after being screwed out of thousands of dollar it had to come to an end.
     
  12. Junkfood00

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    AFAIK it's PayPal who suck up the "loss" when a dispute happens, but that's temporary as they'll try to recover it from the seller/buyer. But when it comes to chargebacks, there are additional fees that will incur them and I don't think they'll pay up from their pocket.

    But if it's worked for you, that's good. Just something doesn't sound right.
     
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    Great tips mate. Will use 'em
     
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  14. Izzma

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    Great post, very helpful.

    About 6 months ago I had someone from Vietnam purchase one of my products for 160 USD. When I looked at the transaction, the buyer used "Japanese Yen" which cost 16K+ in Yen.

    I didn't think much of it, but a month after service was rendered I received a CC charge back due to fraudulent activity. I should have known when the buyer was purchasing in Yen, but I am open to all currencies.

    Long story short, I got scammed, never got the $$$. Sending an invoice to an address is a great idea, why not!

    Thanks!
     
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    You'd be amazed how often things that are 'common sense' get commonly overlooked!

    A nice, practical share, OP!

    I've always been a 'better safe than sorry' kind of person so any true-to-form way to cover my ass is always welcomed.
     
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    Nice share OP. Many would benefit from it. So far I haven't had any problems with Paypal with my Article Writing business but you can never be to sure. Thanks again.
     
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  17. Pucatshuu

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    thats a good point
     
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  18. Izzma

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    Your not talking about your hat... are you?
     
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    @moosey will "create an invoice from the Paypal interface" be as effective as sending the letter with tracking nr?

    and do we still need to check if payer is ineligible?
     
  20. shatcore

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    This does not work.

    I used to sell digital products online, scammers used hacked paypals/emails and buy the product, I'd send the digital code via email to be redeemed. A few days later the true owner would discover the fraud and initiate a chargeback, I had recorded delivery receipts I provided paypal with signatures and everything, the problem is the fact that the product was bought by someone using unauthorised access to the paypal account, and in those cases they always side with the victim, they always get their money back. They can detect suspicious activity, possibly by seeing what IP address (or IP block) usually logs into the account, now all of a sudden a purchase was made via a proxy or TOR or whatever and the buyer can always successfully dispute that one transaction. Hell, it works so perfectly you could probably even use that against paypal, just buy something using TOR next time, then after it arrives if you want to be an arsehole just claim someone hacked your account that time and they'll refund you..