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Met a chick off of POF got lucky and also gained a client.

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  1. Donestrgling

    Donestrgling Regular Member

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    So what's up everyone. I have been in this forum for a little while now, and lots of good info in here. I just want to ask for some help from you guys. See this girl i just met works for a safelock company, and I was explaining to her about SEO, and Google adwords, and the f*ing fifty dollar tests. I showed her fiverr, and BHW, and also the warrior forum. So today we were texting and she was like I am about to go into a meeting with the boss TTYS. So after she got out of the meeting she was like my boss wants to know your rates :).

    Anyways I just work for ten an hour at a moto dealership right now. I do it because its a super kushy job. I am at work right now lol. But anyways can you guys give me a basic pricing structure or any advice on what I should offer the client.

    My ideas were social proof on Facebook. Just upsell fiverr gigs to the company.
    Rank for certain keywords, and keyword research.
    Run a Adwords campaign in the display and search network.
    Offer them a list of their competitors backlinks using scrapebox.
    Upsell adwords banner ads for adwords through fiverr
    Create youtube channel and animoto videos to rank the company in video search results.

    But yeah I have never built a website from ground up and ranked it, I just came into a place that had a crappy website, and got them to rank for some keywords. havent totally figured it out yet.

    So at that can I get some advice? Thanks BHW
     
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    Wait, why aren't you boning her if you met her from a dating site? :p
     
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  3. Donestrgling

    Donestrgling Regular Member

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    Who said I wasnt? lol
     
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    Donestrgling Regular Member

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    Hence "got lucky" in the title of my thread :D
     
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    That's a great contact. Offline is sick with opportunities. They're just waiting for a "techhy" Dude like you to show them the light. Look for services on BST (Buy Sell Trade) with lots of happy customers ESPecially in the last two pages of threads. Charge 3Xs that for offliners. Cultivate that girl. Don't let your emotional feelings with her get in the way of hitting a pipeline of offline customers. You da man. :p
     
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    Don't upsell fiverr gigs they tend to be trash quality with trash results. Outsource the work or use buy/sell/trade section here. A happy customer means referrals!
     
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    Donestrgling Regular Member

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    You know it's not for the girl, it's for the owner of the company she works at. She mentioned me in the meeting. So your saying I should come up with a list of services in the b/s/t section then charge 3x to the client. So I guess I would have to find the owners needs. Then find the corresponding services in bst, then close the deal.

    Right?

    You have any advice for ranking keywords. Should I buy some backlink service. Or should I offer all like article submission, bookmark sites, and backlinks?
     
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    I understand about the girl. She's connected to the owner of company.


    There is a specific way of using BST that I mentioned above. Find out what he wants. When a BST service is dirt cheap I'd charge 6Xs as much the price or more. Their perception is more closely connected to price than ours because we're insiders (think wholesale). 0 00 0 had good advice about Fiverr although you'll learn who's trustworthy, pay them more and still make out sometimes. Put your proposal in writing / pdf. Super professional. Like an offliner.
     
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    Nice work, hope it all work out well for you... so you are saying that you showed this girl BHW right?

    Just be careful, you've shown her all these sites - on top of that you are talking about it on a site her
    or her boss could possibly check out.

    Bit of advice in negotiating - make sure you constantly, constantly talk up the end result of what you are
    doing almost even more so that what the actual SEO work is. Talk about how it will equal to more customers
    and more money for him, in due course. That is the entire reason they look for your services, but sometimes
    it's easy to get technical.

    Also try to push the focus towards you skill as a whole as opposed to what in particular you are doing. Don't
    highlight what each SEO technique does (except for maybe the facebook page... you can let him play around with
    that once it's set up lol - i've found that facebook fan pages are great for keeping clients happily distracted
    while i am doing long term work). You want him to know that you are his go to guy.

    That advice won't make you much more money, but it will help in getting and keeping clients. Good luck hey.
     
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    lucky mutha...................... lol
     
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    Why not cut out the middle man and do some legit whitehat work yourself (ohnoes). Explain what you're doing and they'll trust you more. Just always keep that little secret techie aspect about yourself in front of them. They want you to be a nerd in a way lol. Sometimes I take that angle and portray myself as the guy that never stops looking at a computer. I'm not there to sell my social skills. I'm there to sell the nerd that gets them more money from the internet.

    BTW - Offline pays great. Get in now. Go for referrals.

    Try charging $50-100 bucks an hour. I doubt they'll give you more than 100 an hour since you don't have a business and whatnot. Just a freelancer. Got case studies? Charge more.
     
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    Good advice about the PDF. Bet I can find some already online huh?
     
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    Yeah I showed this girl BHW, Forehead slap! Good idea about the Facebook page... Easy distraction. While I'm bullshitting my through, and accomplishing the owners goals. I just haven't ever ranked a site from scratch before. I am thinking add backlinks in forums and blogs to start...
     
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    Damn straight LOL!! POF is awesome you can see what kind of chicks check you out in the "viewed me" section. Alot of fat chicks check me out... HAHA
     
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    Thanks the reason I dont cut out the middle man is because I am not 100% sure on what I am doing to rank for keywords. It's like one of the pieces of the puzzle I just can't completely grasp. Would you recommend me buying a MNS, and getting it to rank? Just to learn how to rank? I mean I have done ALOOOT of reading so far. I just don't fully, fully understand SEO. And the nerdy guy thing works to girls my age around 24-28 I have noticed. I just need to be able to flash more cash man! Thanks for your response bro!
     
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    Exactly. You gave her the store. Doh! (and her boss). You live and you learn. :confused:
     
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    Nah not her boss.
     
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    Hey so if I write up a proposal and submit it here on this thread will you guys review it?
     
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    WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO



    So, I just talked to my boss and asked what she is looking for and we came up with the following:


    · 1[SUP]st[/SUP] page on Google search results (doesn’t necessarily have to be in the top 3, but just on the 1[SUP]st[/SUP] page)àI’d assume Google AdWords would come into play here
    · Optimize keywords on website (I’m trying to get a hold of our web designer to see if we can get access to the back pages of our website)
    · Google Analytics (need access from web designer to back pages of our website in order to post the link)
    · AdSense (need to know more info about this first)
    · Forums-wants someone to post in a bunch of different forums in our related field introducing our company and writing positively about our products
    · I mentioned to her about how you do videos as well to get a presence in the video results so she mentioned that she might be interested in that too (starting off small and seeing how we do).

    Our engineer is coming from China at the beginning of July and she said she would be interested in having you come in and talk to him and our tech support guy to see what else we can come up with. I trust that you’ll come up with a reasonable proposal that meets both the company’s needs as well as yours.


    Best Regards,
     
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    OP is definitely going to get eWhored for some personal details.