I wish someone had told me this stuff when I was a noob. (sorry if this is the wrong forum - I assumed most beginners and noobs would visit this forum) (Yes, it's long, but if you're too ADD to read this then you probably won't make any money online anyway) I posted this in another thread in response to someone saying that even after months of work they are still unable to make money. He basically said that he had tried all these different methods and nothing was working and he wanted to know why nothing was working. My response: ----------------------------------------------------------- Congratulations, you're learning that 99% of the IM world is bullshit. People sell "ebooks", WSOs, and other shit that doesn't work (think about it. If they worked, they would be using them themselves, not selling the info to saturate the market). It's basic supply and demand. If I have a method that makes me $1000 per day, I'm going to use it and make $1000 a day. I'm not going to give it away and have competition that is going to take away some of my $1000 per day. Yet how many threads do you see on all the IM forums that say "EASY $1000 per day method!!!!! Click here!!" It's all bullshit. The poster just wants some e-cred, or is speaking hypothetically. Sure, you could make $1000 per day, but you're not going to. Not only that, but 99% of the time the "ebook" or whatever is written so poorly that there is no information to be gleaned from it, anyway. It's a "feel good", "empowering" book that makes you "feel" like you can go out and own the world, but you weren't even actually given any concrete examples so you're still fucked. I can tell you "build a high ranking page and sell affiliate products, promote your site with articles, choose affiliate products with high conversions, etc." and you think that you are getting good advice, but you're really not. Do you know how to do any of that stuff, or is it just all high-level semi-specific bullshit? Do you know how to make your page rank well? I mean, I just told you to do it, but I didn't tell you how to do it. Tricky, right? Of course, the next 50 pages in the ebook are talking about all the money, mansions, and chicks you will get when you are making $500 a day without doing any real work at all, so you end up feeling good about it even though a week, a month, a year from now you still won't have made any money. Internet marketing is exactly like day trading. The people who sell methods are not profitable. The people who ARE successful guard their methods with their lives. They sure as shit do not give them away for $37 to the first 10 people and $57 to everyone after that. Decide what you want to do. Do you want to make money from adsense? If so, you'll need to create a GOOD QUALITY website with good content and then get visitors. The best way to get visitors is to get a good search ranking. There are two ways to make money with adsense 1) develop a website that gets huge and makes a lot of money (for example, stevepavlina.com, or 2) develop MANY websites that each make a little bit (for example, 1,000 sites that each make $0.50 per day) Do you want to make money selling affiliate products? Find good products and then get people to buy through your affiliate link. How do you do this? You can make review sites (but most of them are hella scammy so be a little creative). But then you need visitors to your review sites in order to click your affiliate links. How do you get visitors? You can buy ads (make sure you're not spending more than you're making) or you can get a good Google rank. Do you want to make money selling proprietary products? Write some software. Sell it. Write a book. Sell it in physical form so people don't steal it and put it on toerrent sites. The only people who will pay money for a physical book are people who are serious about the subject and they only buy from authorities, so if you're not a nerd or geek about some subject matter, this probably won't work for you. You know how 99% of ebooks are worthless shit for the reasons I discussed in my previous post in this thread? That's not going to fly for a physical book. Do you want to make money providing services? Pick a service. What are you good at? Can you write well? Or does your writing sound like ESL crap? Find a place to advertise. What do people NEED? Once you establish that you are good at something, slowly increase your prices. No one is gonna pay $100 per article from a noob. Try different things. You may fail your first few times. I spent some time making review sites to sell affiliate products but even to this day I've never sold a single one. I just figure that's not for me, so I moved on to other avenues and now I make money. Also keep this in mind: 99% of people lie. 99% of people on IM forums are lying about what they do, how they do it, and how much they make. I absolutely guarantee that. The bottom line, same as with anything, is don't take advice from people who bullshit around. If you ask questions and get vague answers, they're probably bullshitting. Have a question? Get a specific answer. If you ask "how do I do [such and such]?" And the answer isn't specific, then either the person helping you is just messing with you or doesn't really know the answer or doesn't want to give you the answer. Do you have time to waste doing that? I know I don't. Put them on your Ignore List and move on. This goes TRIPLE if you're paying for information. If I pay for info I expect absolutely technical, no room for interpretation, no bullshit, no hippie crap, absolutely specific information about EXACTLY whatever the subject matter is. "First do [this], then do [that]. Do them specifically this way. Here are diagrams, charts, and examples." Don't settle for bullshit like "Imagine how much MONEY you will have once you do [this] and [that]. WOMEN will want to FUCK YOU. You can QUIT YOUR JOB!" No, that's not information that you pay for, that's bullshit, and sadly, that's what most of the IM world is. Idiots sell bullshit to other idiots. There's even a step-by-step thread on this forum about exactly HOW to do it. 90% of the threads on IM forums are worthless. They're e-pissing contests. It's like: Question: "Which ad placement position is better for my website?" Answer: "Fuck you I make $500 per day and I'll only answer your question if you pay me $200!!" The remaining 10% of threads vary between "mostly worthless" and "somewhat decent." There's not much that you don't already know. Hell, I gave you FOUR ways to make money in this thread, step by step. They weren't super specific, but you now have a framework for what you need to do. Attack each step logically, ask the right questions. What do you need to know? Why? Are you creating a website? Why? Do you have questions about how to do that? What specifically? "How do I make a website?" is not a question. "Which of the following hosting plans is better, based on your experience?" is a question. Are you choosing an affiliate product? Why? What information should you use when choosing? Why? Quantify everything. You said your iPhone blog failed. Why did it fail? What aspects of it failed? Did you not complete the site? Did it not look the way you wanted it to? Did you not get the traffic you needed? Why? Did you not get good Google rankings? Did your adwords account get banned? How was it monetized? Why? How many visitors converted? Do you know? Are you keeping track of this stuff? How old was the site? How much content did you have on it? What was its purpose? That stuff you said you posted on torrent sites, are you talking about PPI stuff? If so, please ignore my posts because you're the scum of the internet. (PPI = pay per install = putting malware in programs that people download and uploading them to torrents. It used to be profitable but you had to deal with the moral consequences of ruining other people's computers). Keep records. Know why stuff failed. Most importantly, learn that IM is not easy like all the eBooks and online "gurus" say it is.