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Member8200 vouched for a scammer.. I'm owed $1,000.00

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  1. GrahamCrackers

    GrahamCrackers BANNED BANNED

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    About a month ago. I answered a post where they were vouching for someone who needed negative keywords.
    I went ahead and got in contact with him. He see mm ed cool. Was adamant on paying after I delivered and after checking things out. I was okay with it. I did it a few times then he told me not to come back when i had 4k keywords or more. He wanted 20k keywords all together. I figured I'd do 4k at a time which at his pay scale of .25 per keyword was 1,000.
    He told me he was going to pay me that money. My gut feeling told me to hold on until he paid the 1k and he established that he'd pay.
    He didn't pay me and finally wrote me and told me he just got the check from his client and it'd be a day or so..
    I said okay. Well the next day, he tells me he bought a competitor keywords list for 750.00. From that point on, he has not responded nor have the ones who had vouched for him. Won't say anything. I manually went and found the keywords. He lives in West Palm Beach. I really feel anger because I went all out for him. Got a friend who really needed money to help me.
    Now I'm out this money. Like I'll contact him and he blatantly refuses to acknowledge or respond to my messages.
    I'm not sure if he's a member given two people vouched for him. I'm really frustrated because this is a lot of money and its time consuming. The fact he found a list cheaper than what he quoted me is very unprofessional to shirk his responsibility to paying me.
    I have further proof of the interaction with the perpetrator.
    Personally I'm posting this to be paid for my services but also to warn people about vouching for people because it ultimately falls on you.

    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/members/797206-member8200.html

    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/want-buy/778605-wtb-will-pay-negative-keyword-list-drug-rehab-industry.html#post8179164

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    member8200 has been notified he has 48 hours to respond.

    OS
    PS. Reminder to all who have current issues, keep it PROFESSIONAL. No name calling or other insults.

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  4. member8200

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    Just to clarify this. This is not me first and foremost.
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...egative-keyword-list-drug-rehab-industry.html

    Plus yes I VOUCH for the guy same as nanexo. This guy just paid me $1250 5 days ago, I am getting $2500 monthly subscription from tim and I can post screenshots and ask a mod to do a teamviewer with us to verify that tim McBride is paying us $2500 a month on paypal for our services in Jufcy. http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...ographic-creators-blood-5-star-reviews-3.html

    The Guy is Legit to the core. I will talk to tim to see what happened here. We are chatting on a daily basis and fyi. He's my client for 1 year straight. He's payng $1k a month for the first 6 months now he is paying Jufcy Infographics $2500 a month!
     
  5. GrahamCrackers

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    Yet he hasn't paid me and I have sent numerous messages and he reiterated that I'd be paid and I haven't been. The last communication was the 11th of August.
    You vouched for someone who has me doing work. I have contacted him pretty much every single day for the past 11 days. I have been extremely nice. It's hurt my business a bit because I did. What was asked. His dude has logged on my file.
     
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  6. member8200

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    Jufcy Customer Service: hi tim, here's a mod of BHW. can you tell us what you told me?

    Tim mcbride: hey man. Yea that guy was a scammer man. He claimed to have a list of drug rehab keywords but really he was just using a SEO tool to gather the information. I paid him money also. On top of that I had to buy a list from another personI paid for negative keywords, then found out after purchasing a real list of negative keywords that his were bullshit. He was just using some keyword research tool to find data. we couldnt use what he gave us. I never disputed my payment, he got money from me lol...

    Jufcy Customer Service: so the requirements is not met for the job?
    how much did you pay him?

    Tim mcbride: I think 300 or so
    What happened was he got money hungry. He thought I was going to pay him 5k for him just using a keyword research tools, most of the keywords were x15 duplicates, just copy and pastes with a different city name. I ended up having to buy a list from someone else because he wasn't usable. I forget how I paid him

    Jufcy Customer Service: so in short what he's giving you is ORDINARY KEYWORDS, duplicate keywords with different city name.. not negative keywords we can use for the project right? and you paid him $300 and did not dispute for the work done

    Tim mcbride: he claimed he didnt have paypal i think. oh google pay. one sec ill pull it up. even the keywords he gave us are not usable for all our projects. The seller did not meet the criteria and requirements and are not demanding to be paid in full. here is the 2nd transaction.

    You sent ****@gmail.com $200.00
    Sent $200.00 on Aug 5, 2015 7:01:03 PM PDT
    Money will be deposited to recipient's Wallet Balance when this transaction is completed.

    You sent ****@gmail.com $100.00
    Sent
    $100.00 on Aug 4, 2015 4:39:08 PM PDT
    Money will be deposited to recipient's Wallet Balance when this transaction is completed.

    300.00 for 5k worth of bullshit negative keywords that he scraped from some tool is pretty good. I never charged back. His keywords were mostly duplicates, it didnt contain any exacts, ect. Unuseable.

    Here's the logs (summarized). Full Screenshots to follow
     
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  7. GrahamCrackers

    GrahamCrackers BANNED BANNED

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    Dude that's bs..
    He acknowledged after he looked at the list I had given him and said he liked the keywords and was happy with them and now I'm a scammer. He NEVER once told me any of this. So why am i hearing this now??
    He's trying to cover his tracks. I was using Google analytics and researching all the keywords by hand. I don't have to accept PayPal if i don't want to. This is definitely a scam. You guys vouched for a scammer. He's having buyer's remorse because he found something cheaper and didn't want to pay. The price he quoted.
    I didn't get money hungry. I simply wanted to get paid for my work.
     
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  8. member8200

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    Tim mcbride:

    https://onedrive.live.com/view.aspx...95!427&ithint=file%**************************
    there it is. Mostly copy and paste data, no exact phrases, etc alot of the keywords in there aren't even considered negative keywords. If you think that list is worth 1300.00 then I don't know what to tell you. He has been paid 300.00

    lol just a quick look

    "florida drug and alcohol rehab "
    "florida alcohol and drug rehab "
    those are two of his negative keywords.
    Those two keywords are literally what we are
    Not negatives at all
    Another quick 3
    "florida alcohol treatment "
    "alcohol treatment center in florida "
    "mental health inpatient treatment centers florida "

    We are a drug & alcohol rehab facility in florida
    so this guy is just trying to make money off of bullshit
     
  9. GrahamCrackers

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    I never used those.. He's used all my keywords and now you guys will take the fall for his unprofessional behaviors. What a total sham. How "convenient" that I'm all of a sudden a scammer after asking to be paid. We found keywords that had low competition etc. I asked him every step of the way if he was satisfied.
     
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    1) both of you stop bickering...

    2) member8200 and 'tim'... I have already stated on skype that I will need the full skype log posted... removing personal info on here and sending me the full, unedited version to my email that I've given to you.

    OS
     
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  11. member8200

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    This is the latest we have from him. Brother this guy is paying $2500 monthly to Jufcy Infographics. He pays for good work literally.

    What you did in my perspective is a "research". What he need when he posted the thread is that "if you have" --- you gave "research - a work" He needs a LIST of what you already have. Would you like me to upload his payments for us for June and July?

    This guy is a Service Providers dream. One of the Big boys, one of the guys who will really pay that much if you give your product VALUE, and of quality.
     
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    Him and I talked about this at great length about keywords and its irrelevant when you don't follow your word. Yeah its cool he paid you. For 11 days he jerked me around. Didn't pay me anything. Of course I'm going to want to be paid. I did extensive research to get him keywords that his competition was using yet here you are lying and trying to discredit my dealings. You blatantly lied and made up keywords I've never used. You bottom line vouched for a scammer. For all we know, he could be paying you to promote him.

    This is why so many people are jaded. The situation was in his favor because he has two Jr VIP members vouching for someone with no history. If he had came along on his own. He'd have to make some deposit. He's been my nightmare as he dishonored his word to have me paid by Friday.
     
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  13. GrahamCrackers

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    Plus.. i can post my screen shots. In fact i will. Never once did he say he was dissatisfied. He just tried to make me "forget" about the money he owed. What we fail to realize about being anonymous. We think if we ignore a problem. It'll go away. That's not what happens. I have been shitlisted myself and while I may not agree with the outcome. I still followed my word and did what I could to follow through with my actions.
    My time is valuable and I don't mess around.
     
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    Agreed. Lets talk on skype graham. Mod and tim are waiting there. Lets stop this bickering now and go on skype to finalize this bro.

    Thanks!
     
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    This was posted just now from Tim..
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  16. GrahamCrackers

    GrahamCrackers BANNED BANNED

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    There is no talking
    . Simply pay my invoice and everything will I'm sure go away. You blatantly tried to lie and there is no wriggle room. Tell me where to send my invoice for my payment to be paid. We can talk right here in a cordial manner.
     
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    Part 2 - *** Jufcy Customer Service added Graham *** Matt (moderator) with Tim Mcbride.

    Graham, lets be honest with one another here. When actually going over your list of exactly 5206 keywords we found a ton of keywords that are not negatives. Also a ton keywords that are "Find & Replace" keywords. I specifically told you I didn't want to pay for abunch of duplicates.Your original keywords were solid. I liked them. You got paid for them

    Graham what are you asking for 1000.00? Honestly I'm not going to even use this list. I can't. I'd have to spend hours sorting through this thing, I don't have that time. I liked the actor keys you added and some of the other keys. That is why I paid you twice.
    But these new ones... I mean come on man.

    Honestly Graham, the guy I have running my PPC owns SERPWoo.com and is well known. He messaged me and said he can't use this list. Some of the keywords yea, but most aren't neccesary and many are not even bad keywords.

    [11:53:58 AM] *** Graham has left ***

    Jufcy Customer Service: the guy wants to get paid.. then backs out on a conversation when trying to solve it.. now how are we gonna solve this one up. Mod has specifically instructed us not to fight over the thread and you still keep on posting. The moderator removed his post of "P.S." cause he found the keywords himself when put on the right direction. There's no lie here. I will not be posting anymore here. THIS IS MY LAST REPLY ON THIS THREAD unless instructed by a moderator to reply back
     
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    How convenient that you didn't put my response in there. Bottom line I'm owed for my work that I did. It's not my fault you found cheaper keywords than what was quoted. I find it ironic that Tim is still hiding behind you two as members in blue. You are fighting and validating his unprofessional behaviors. Which makes you all scammers in my eyes. Covering up. I'm owed. If I don't get paid. Oh well but at least I stood up for myself and exposed this bs for what it was.I never put those keywords there. What I suspect is the person who Tim asked me to put on as write access put them there.
     
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    Hey, I know I'm not well known here which is why I had Member8200 vouch for me along with Nanexo. Both of whom I've paid a lot of money to. Here is the deal, his screen shots are accurate with how I felt about his keywords. I was happy with them, but what he is failing to mention is that these were the original keywords that I paid him for. He has since added 4 thousand keywords to the list, many of which are not negative keywords at all, and the others are just done with the "Find & Replace" tool in excel. He was trying to get easy money and because I liked his initial keywords (and paid him for them) I didn't bother to look at the list for a few days. Keep in mind I have several projects going on and during this time I have paid out well over 30k to other vendors with no problems. Including wire transfers, Paypal, Google wallet, ect. Not until my PPC guy brought it to my attention that the list was getting progressively shittier did I decide to start ignoring the guy. It is a very blatant case of getting greedy. I stopped responding once we compared the new bought list to his and found that he had just throw a bunch of unusable crap in there. I don't have time for BS. You can ban this account if you like, this guy will not be getting paid 1,000.00

    For those of you who know me from other forums, you will know I pay out a lot of money to many very very well known IM people and have had no issues.

    So Jufcy, I love your work and I'm sorry this guy is trying to extort money out of you. I would not have even posted in here if it wasn't for Jufcy. That is a good company who does good work and it isn't right that this guy is trying to tarnish their name because he couldn't get away with his "get easy money" scheme.
     
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    Dude the person I put on as write access is eliquid, we make too much money to be messing around with these baby games. Cut it out man.