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MegaUpload founder’s property seized with bogus warrant

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by StillSmiling, Mar 19, 2012.

  1. StillSmiling

    StillSmiling Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Oh, this is gonna be GOOD!!

    "Kim Dotcom, the notorious founder of MegaUpload and one of the most-wanted alleged copyright infringers in the world, may get all his stuff back from police after a judge ruled that authorities seized his property on a faulty court order."

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    http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/03/19/judge-megaupload-founders-property-seized-with-bogus-warrant/
     
  2. GreenGoblin

    GreenGoblin BANNED BANNED

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    Yea i was skimming threw this today, this is def gonna be a interesting case
     
  3. Tensegrity

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    Nice! Now he's just gotta prove the FBI looked at his email illegally and this whole case might get thrown out.
     
  4. Nigel Farage

    Nigel Farage BANNED BANNED

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    I have $10.00 that says the the Patriot Act allows the FBI to look at any email they want, whenever they want. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if it also says that it's illegal to encrypt your email in order to prevent the government from reading it.
     
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  5. Fuggz

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    One of my favorite parts:

    "He even claimed earlier this month that once his company's files are returned to him, they would reveal names of U.S. government officials who allegedly used MegaUpload. Dotcom said they include Department of Justice and U.S. Senate employees."
     
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  6. cronini

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    Yeah but he doesn't come under the patriot act.
     
  7. bertbaby

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    Your tax dollars at work! They can't even get the damn paperwork right!
     
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  8. Roparadise

    Roparadise BANNED BANNED

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    But if the emails were on U.S. email based services,then since he is accessing it from outside the U.S. it can be monitored.
     
  9. GreenGoblin

    GreenGoblin BANNED BANNED

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    Honestly, I saw the interview and the more i think about it. I don't think this is about winning for movie/music industry i think this is about killing the business model it's gonna be interesting to see how long this case gets dragged out. Considering Kim assets are frozen we will see how long his legal team stays with him not being paid anything for the legal work. I can't see him losing though unless they find some major loophole in the US law.
     
  10. Pringles

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    His lawyers have been with him awhile I think. They have been paid enough money over the past 5 years to do this for free. I'm sure if they get his assets released they will have a nice payday though.
     
  11. SilverSultan

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    That would be interesting but consider this he was in New Zealand does FBI have that kinda jurisdiction internationally? :confused:
     
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    i dont think the FBI can look at the emails, as for email encryption i dont think it would become illegal since ma ny companies use it. And even the FBI and goverment use that so they cant make it illegal
     
  13. GreenGoblin

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    Well that's good to know, I think the major corps already know there gonna lose however like i said i don't think there game plan is about winning it's about draggin this case out till megaupload is forgotten I'm sure the major corps lawyers advised them of other cases that lossed in court already like Viacom suing Youtube etc

    I mean I don't know how they think there gonna be that rare case that wins this battle

    http://google.about.com/od/blogs/a/viacomlawsuit.htm

    On Jue 23, 2010, the judge dismissed the lawsuit and found that YouTube was indeed protected by the safe harbor specified in the Digital Mellinium Copyright Act.
    The Issues


    YouTube is a video hosting service that lets users submit their own content. Although YouTube's terms of service clearly state that users are forbidden from uploading copyrighted material without permission of the copyright holder. Nonetheless, this rule was ignored by many users.
    Viacom alleges:

    YouTube deliberately built up a library of infringing works to draw traffic to the YouTube site, enabling it to gain a commanding market share, earn significant revenues and increase its enterprise value.



    Now lets think, im sure major corps have smart enough attorneys that would have them tell there clients. "hey you not gonna win this, these type of cases have been tried already and its a no win" because attorneys base there research on prior cases mind u google and viacom was in 2010...again, this case isn't about winning or losing it's about killing the business model.
     
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  14. Nigel Farage

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    YouTube actually HOSTS the the "infringing works", and they get safe harbor protection while a torrent site merely provides a token that identifies what may or may not be copyright material, and yet THEY are shut-down.
     
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    This is a interesting world we live in
     
  16. Roparadise

    Roparadise BANNED BANNED

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    But hasn't youtube been making bulk licensing deals with the studios now? I think they automatically pay royalties out,if a copyrighted song is detected.
     
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  17. Steeky

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    I have seen full movies on youtube. Along with full NBA games and more
     
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  18. Roparadise

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    But Now I think there in agreements to just pay the the money from advertisements,and they wont get sued.
     
  19. popcrdom29

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    From what I understand, if the FBI wants to look at emails from someone in a different
    country, they need a warrant from that hosting country. However, if they are legally
    reading emails from a US citizen (warrant approved) and it contains information or a
    response from a person in a different country then it is legal.

    In other words, the FBI cannot go into the email server of a person in a foreign country
    without a warrant from said country. But I'm sure they're doing this illegally anyway.
     
  20. Roparadise

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    The patriot act allows the government to intercept any message incoming from another country or outgoing from the u.s. to another country.