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meeting like-minded friends - dale carnegie/the secret/law of attraction

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by captchadreams, Dec 19, 2012.

  1. captchadreams

    captchadreams Power Member

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    I've read bits and pieces of dale carnegies work, the secret, law of attraction.. and those types of books.. which are mostly all the same way of thinking.. and having that consciousness and ability to actually take that knowledge in and keep it, practice it, etc. I actually was on the other side of the fence and thought it was a bunch of complete nonsense and morons with how the media portrayed it. but after becoming conscious, researching and learning. I'm at a new point in my life.. and I want to make friends with other like-minded people so we can truly focus off of each others positive energy. I just think I would be able to accomplish a lot more in my life and also help each other.

    fyi: after re-reading what I wrote above.. it even sounds kinda retarded to me as well.. but to the people that understand.. if you could give me any advice on the following 2 questions.

    1. I have tried telling some of my friends about these books and how it's really changed my perspectives in everything that I do, and how I live my life. obviously if someone isn't conscious enough.. they will be like I was before and think I'm a retard and never actually research it or even consider my pitch. so I'm curious if anyone has some tips on trying to recommend these books to people.. a better pitch or way to tell my friends to actually seek out knowledge and research it themselves.

    2. I'd also like to make friends with anyone on here that is like-minded. I'm not going to spoon-feed anyone.. and I don't expect anyone to spoon-feed me on things. but it's nice having like-minded people that you can throw a question at.. that will actually look in several different points of views, instead of just themselves. so if you'd like to be friends you can PM me your facebook/skype/whatever.
     
  2. RottenYellow

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    To be honest, I do not believe in 'the secret' or whatever all other 'cusmic attraction' theories claim. It 'works' because of positive attitude and thinking, not because of some cosmic 'power' or whatever they claim.

    Here are some good books from top of the head:
    Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill
    Psycho cybernetics by Maxwell Maltz
    The 50th Law by Robert Greene

    Basically what I learned from all this is that there are certain rules to success, but it all comes down to your mind and that you have to understand yourself and how your mind works, that's the key to everything. So I got really interested in psychology.

    Check this torrent out: http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/6277977/Music_Theory__Psychology__Philosophy__Sociology_Lectures

    My favourate lectures are from 'Questions of Value' series. Hope you find them useful and feel free to add me.
     
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  3. KraftyKyle

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    I don't necessarily believe "the secret", but I do believe essentially what it portrays. I believe in dreaming big, setting goals, and focusing on those goals every day. Vision boards are an incredible help because it's "writing your goals down" which is a big step in having those goals become reality.

    Reporters ask athletes all the time how they made game winning shots and they always say they envisioned it in their head and have been dwelling on the the moment since they were a kid. I believe in thinking positive no matter what the circumstance.

    One more thing to keep in mind as you find / encourage your friends. I heard a speaker say one time,
    "you're salary [or yearly earnings in our case] will be the average of your five closest friends."

    If you hang out with scumbags, you're not going to flourish in that environment. Honestly, you're friends may not get what you're doing. They may reject it and persecute you for it, but here's the thing: know that your commitment to this new lifestyle choice (I'll say that instead of "the secret") is how you identify yourself. You identify yourself with this community. Yes, you can be friends with your current friends, but know (if this is the case) that in the end they will never be on the same level as you.

    While that may be harsh, I know I've seen it be true. So here's to you captchadreams and all my fellow blackhatters, for putting aside the laziness and BS this world has to offer and looking towards making it in this world. Dream big... dream big.
     
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  4. jazzc

    jazzc Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    a) If you feel the need to pitch "your way", it 's not good enough (either in theory or your implementation).
    b) Persuasion happens with actions, not words. Become successful enough, and *they* will seek your "secret".
     
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  5. captchadreams

    captchadreams Power Member

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    thanks guys.

    I agree on the positive thinking part.. which is the most important part I think.. that and taking action.

    @jazz
    I understand what you're saying.. I just wish I had more friends that thought this way.. and friends I could talk to about it. I had a lot of negative friends which i've separated myself from for the most part.. I know I shouldn't need to explain anything to the friends i've kept.. but they are my friends.. and I just wish we were able to have deeper discussions then we currently do. I ignore all the drama and gossip now, because it's all negativity. When I said pitch.. i just meant a way to bring up a discussion about it.. I'm not really trying to sell them on anything.. they're my friends and I just want a better life for them as well as me.
     
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  6. captchadreams

    captchadreams Power Member

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    I just find it amazing how most people act now.. if it takes longer then a couple minutes to explain something then they've already stopped listening and are focusing on something else.. like everyone has ADHD

    I just don't get it.
     
  7. jazzc

    jazzc Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    The thing is, you can't force change to someone who doesn't to change. If your current friends bore you, it 's time to get new ones. It doesn't mean that you will stop loving/caring for your current friends, it 's just that you need to be hanging out with (as you said) like minded people.
     
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    I recommend you to join any of these social networks to make friends online, I use it to make friends with people from a different range of interests (in my own situation, I am interested in some indie music that almost no one listen to, so like it helps me to find people who love the same music I do). Also I added law of attraction in my interests and people usually come and tell me that they are into it. I suggest a social network with people from different countries, its always cool to find new people in other places and you can visit them in holidays and stuff.
     
  9. captchadreams

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    what sites do you use? I'm on a few social networks that aren't facebook/twitter.. but they're mostly troll sites it seems.

    or do you just like facebook pages with those topics and find others that comment on the posts?
     
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    "The Secret" to "How to Win Friends and Influence People" is change your last name so chumps think you're related to Andrew Carnegie and press up the long con by lecturing at Carnegie Hall.
     
  11. madoctopus

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    As jazzc said you can not and you should not change your friends by trying to convince them your way is better. Your way is better for you and may not be better for them. Every person is at a certain stage of evolution and trying to shove your way down their throats might actually do more harm than good to them. Is like this:

    You can run 10 miles. You know it is good to run 10 miles daily to train and become better and stay in shape. You take a friend who sit on his ass all his life and try to make him run 10 miles. He will either tell you to shove it up your arse or he will die in the process of running because he's not ready for a 10mile race.

    Also related to your post might be this post i made a while ago:
     
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