Matthew Woodward, Liar, Pretender, Gurutard and Ginger
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pixelgrinder
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- Apr 1, 2008
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Selling a course about how to sell courses about courses? Some inception shit going on here
shekian
Newbie
- Oct 20, 2012
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Cmon guys.. I though it was obvious with this kind of product.... those numbers are made up but that doesnt mean the product / course does not work! this is part of the sales pitch everyone uses to sell their stuff.... the smart user has to decide if there is probable value on the product, this can be done checking previous work of Matt or reading his blog...
to sum it up:
Are those real numbers? Probably NO
Does it mean that this course does not work? NO!
to sum it up:
Are those real numbers? Probably NO
Does it mean that this course does not work? NO!
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I agree, his PBN course probably has great content... that can probably be found on BHW for free.
But if he was as good as he says he is, why fake this nonsense in the first place?
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Isn't there some sort of disconnect with those questions and answers?
If A is Null can B be Null?
I have no clue, have not been to his site in ages, have not looked at the info in the original post but, to me it makes no sense to lie about revenue if what is being offered is real.
Not a diss of Matt or anything but merely a question about your thought process.
Rock_Shock
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- Sep 11, 2016
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To increase sales and give it that last bit of pump it needs to make people take action.
Let's look at the probability of someone buying from him..had he said he made $500 vs $500,000... obviously $500,000. Aged old IM practice i guess.
(This is obviously not a comment made to defend his lying.. if in fact he did lie.. Which he might have. Merely responding to your question)
Reaver
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- Aug 6, 2015
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Do you know how many launches it takes to get to even four figures? If you don't have the right connections, you're screwed. This is from someone who used to launch products on WaFo.
So yeah, he does six figure product launches - bc he's got connections. The average person doesn't have that.
Don't pay $300 to figure that out. Unless he's offering access to his connections - ALL OF THEM - and promising these fellow gurutard ass kissers are gonna promote your product for you, it isn't worth the price.
Oh, but he probably left that part out of his course.
So yeah, he does six figure product launches - bc he's got connections. The average person doesn't have that.
Don't pay $300 to figure that out. Unless he's offering access to his connections - ALL OF THEM - and promising these fellow gurutard ass kissers are gonna promote your product for you, it isn't worth the price.
Oh, but he probably left that part out of his course.
Cratos
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- Aug 16, 2012
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Guys, Matt is at the point where he just doesn't give a crap about what the hell any of you think of him/his blog/his numbers. He's been banking hard and will continue to bank hard as long as the newbs continue to trickle in. He's admitted it on his own blog in the comments section. You'll learn how deep the rabbit hole goes when you do the proper research.
This crap he puts out now is for the gullible newbs. Not for the seasoned marketers. He's using the kind of tactics that have been discussed on this very forum.
Do I condone his new WF guru crap courses? Absolutely not. To each his own. There are some real scumbags out there on the net for sure though.
This crap he puts out now is for the gullible newbs. Not for the seasoned marketers. He's using the kind of tactics that have been discussed on this very forum.
Do I condone his new WF guru crap courses? Absolutely not. To each his own. There are some real scumbags out there on the net for sure though.
InstaWrite
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- Apr 16, 2015
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The amount of money he is spending in advertising his course makes me super suspicious.
Prankster
Junior Member
- Jun 29, 2009
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Woaa !!
I checked out his site, while researching on GSA Search Engine Ranker. I was immediately attracted to his knowledge and how he represented the topic. I was so much hooked on to that I tried to buy GSA from his money site.
But better sense prevailed !!
Now upon seeing this thread, I understand now why his cash register keeps ringing !!!!!! Noob funding !!!
I highly rated this guy. Its sadden to see this side of him too !
I checked out his site, while researching on GSA Search Engine Ranker. I was immediately attracted to his knowledge and how he represented the topic. I was so much hooked on to that I tried to buy GSA from his money site.
But better sense prevailed !!
Now upon seeing this thread, I understand now why his cash register keeps ringing !!!!!! Noob funding !!!
I highly rated this guy. Its sadden to see this side of him too !
What sort of product launches did you do on the WF, and why did you stop?
I respectfully disagree. The original price of product was $297 (as said by Ste in OP) but sale price (according to that image) keeps increasing and decreasing. If there was a discount code, why sale price is higher than $297?
If their sales platform is really rounding everything(I don't think that's the case) then they should change that ASAP as it's very impractical.
AryabhattZero
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- Jul 28, 2015
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G.. GI.. GINGER?!!?!
Disgrace.
Disgrace.
Reaver
Elite Member
- Aug 6, 2015
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I stopped bc I learned super quick that unless you kiss a massive amount of ass, and/or you're willing to trade favors/your soul to other list owners, you aren't going to make it.
Constantly putting out products and promoting other products is tiring. And other people's products were usually shit - rehashed shit. I'm not going to recommend someone buy crap bc I owe a favor to someone bc they promoted my product to their list.
I've met some super awesome people through product launching, but all you have to do is go on FB and click any guru's page or join any group. They bully new product launchers, people who ask for refunds or leave bad reviews of their products, circle jerk, flat out lie - all to make money.
That's why I stopped.
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What if you grow 5 or so WaFo accounts that circle jerk each other off from the start, growing each other... all owned by you?
I honestly think I could do well on WaFo quite easily. I've been looking at it every couple of months... I could do what they do... but again I have that moral issue of selling shit to morons that gurutards don't seem to have.
I should really just say fuck it and go all gurutard, why not right?
Reaver
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- Aug 6, 2015
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I don't think anyone here would be surprised if you became a guru. You're such a troll that if you actually became one, we'd all assume it was just to take your trolling to the next level.
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