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Mass Control - Worth the time?

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by catman08, Oct 5, 2008.

  1. catman08

    catman08 Junior Member

    Jan 11, 2008
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    Hey guys and BH fellows :)

    What do you think about fr*ank ker*ns Mass**Control program. I know he launched it months ago, but i was wondering if it is worth spending some time to go over all this stuff.

    any opinion is welcome :)

  2. Radz

    Radz Junior Member

    Dec 28, 2007
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    Mass Control is actually a high Level business Course... Its not for someone who is noob in Internet Marketing, Its for experience peoples.

    And Yes Its Worth the Time & Money.
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  3. ximscreamingx

    ximscreamingx Power Member

    Jan 16, 2008
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    He launched it in February. It's certainly worth the time and since there's a backdoor on the download site, it's well worth the $0 price tag. It like anything is only good if you put it into action.
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  4. yao1994

    yao1994 Regular Member

    Sep 23, 2008
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    guess anything is worth it when it has $0 price tag hehe
  5. gonzomcribbinz

    gonzomcribbinz Regular Member

    Sep 16, 2008
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    Getting paid.

    Not when the time you wasted reading a shitty product could have been spent doing something profitable.

    That being said, [email protected]$$ C*ntr*l is worth it if you know how to apply it correctly and are independent enough of a thinker to realize that you'll get the best results when you tweak the program to your needs and to your strengths.

    Of course, that can be said about any kind of info product.

    Always read between the lines with stuff like this and you may get more value from it.

    That being said, I had the "Head-slapping, EUREKA!" moment a while back when I realized that the best way to learn from other marketers is NOT to read/watch their products but to learn from the way they marketed those products. Frank created a large enough buzz with that damn program for people to still be asking about it almost a year after it was released. He's also one of the few guys to admit that he used those same tactics that he teaches in the product to launch and promote it.

    The guy that released ProductLaunchFormula V1 and V2 did the same thing. (Jeff Walker? Dunno. Can't be bothered to check.)

    Take what these guys do to dominate the insanely over-competitive (and just plain annoying, IMO) "internet marketing" niche and apply it and your own creativity to promoting products in completely unrelated niches and you'll be getting somewhere.

    P.S. - I'm not one to slap myself on the back, but what I said up there will save you soooooooo much time and money sifting through these guru's products looking for a "system" to make money. I'm straight-up telling you right here and now to read those words again and again until it sinks in that you do NOT need that next info product. You probably don't even need that super hyped-up piece of software. A simple domain, decent content/copywriting, maybe an autoresponder, and sticking the right product in front of the right audience will be enough to make you a small fortune.

    Don't believe me? I'm as technically UN-savvy as they fucking come and I've walked into just about every niche that I felt like and turned a profit just like that. In the great words of whoever-the-fuck came up with one of the most brilliant marketing logos of our lifetime: Just Do It.

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  6. forgot

    forgot Senior Member

    May 3, 2008
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    It doesnt worth.

    I will not buy it even at $100.
  7. wealthy199

    wealthy199 BANNED BANNED

    Sep 24, 2007
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    In my opinion "it does worth" - a hell of a lot for that matter.
    I bought a membership to his re-release last week and it's been great stuff so far. A lot of it is geared towards nlp types of things and is really an eye opener into how and why people react and think the way they do.
  8. smithy

    smithy Registered Member

    Oct 28, 2008
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    been a full time internet marketer since the days
    in a cave
    I've just bought his new release of mass control monthly course because i've got the original and it's good stuff,the original that is. Still waiting for the new stuff to arrive.

    One of the simplest ways to really understand their stuff is to copy the marketing material from their launches and once you see the product go back to the marketing material to see how it translates. I've been using this principle since i first started marketing on the net and first bought Corey Rudl's course.

    When frank launches a product copy all his videos (they might disappear) and keep his emails then try to understand the process. He's the only marketer i know that comes across entertaining as well as informative and this keeps you watching/reading.

    You just have to get the general idea then concentrate on specific areas at a time. This way you won't become overwhelmed. It's the only way i can do it.

    Good luck.
  9. plikv

    plikv Newbie

    Apr 30, 2008
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    Fuckin-A, it's worth the time. Gonzo hit the nail on the proverbial fucking head here guys. Re-Read his post from above. I'm gonna tell you something that a lot of people wouldn't have the balls to tell you, but here goes...

    I spent well over 15k over three years before the light bulb went off in my stupid little brain. You name it: Mi*ke Lit*man's $6000 coaching program Ma*tt Bac*ak's IMI ($5800) 3-day workshop (I was in the St Patrick's day, 2006 class), and after the credit cards got maxed out, I spent what little money I had on all those stupid little fucking e-books promising you a fortune with adsense and all the other bullshit out there. Then, after over two years into trying to 'make it' online, I, like so many others here (whether they'll admit it or not), started watching every fucking free thing that Frank Kern put out, but I didn't buy Ma*ss Con*trol because I didn't have the cash.

    So I eventually found this place and got it for fr*ee :)

    And then after I went through the course, I went back (I kept every one of his emails in a folder) and looked at....drum roll please...HOW HE WAS MARKETING TO ME.

    This was huge.

    So instead of just hitting the 'delete' button on all the emails I got from every fucking wannabe Internet Marketing 'guru' on the planet, I started keeping them and putting them in separate folders...and studying...you guessed it...HOW THEY WERE MARKETING TO ME.

    How many days apart did their emails come? What emotional triggers were they trying to pull do get me to buy? etc, etc.

    It was only after I discovered that I had to actually DO SHIT THAT I DIDN'T REALLY FUCKING WANT TO DO, and GIVE IT SOME ACTUAL FUCKING TIME TO WORK that I figured out how to make my first online sale.

    I did my first mini-launch of a $39.00 info product 26 days after I got MC and PLF from here and made 900 bucks in one day. (It was from using the swipe files from the MC course called the F*our D*ay C*ash M*achi*ne) That was all it took for me. I've spent every fucking day since thinking like a marketer.

    Since then, I've done my own successful full-blown product launch (Courtesy of the stuff I got here from J*eff*Wa*lker's P*L*F and F*rank*Ke*rn's Ma*ss Co*ntr*ol), and I now have a high four-figure monthly income from recurring sales of my core training for a digital product that includes downloadable videos and a membership site (Thank you to whoever uploaded R*yan De*iss's 30*d*ays*t*o*10*k stuff) and I am on track to FINALLY do six-figures a year online - and this is all from just ONE site.

    I can't even imagine what it would be like to have four or five of those, but at this point I don't have any employees, so I have to fucking do EVERYTHING, and shit takes longer to do when you're on your own, but I'll get there eventually.

    And here's the bitch of it, fellas: Now that I can afford to buy the stuff that people are launching, I don't even need to. Fucking weird how that works - if I would've just DID THE SHIT I DIDN'T WANT TO DO IN THE FIRST PLACE, like actually taking the fucking time to build a website, learn adwords, etc, (Just like Ma*tt Ba*cak told me to) I would've saved thousands of dollars and a few years of frustration, fights with the wife, and all the personal bullshit that goes along with that.

    Anyway, just thought you all would like to know that YOU ACTUALLY CAN set your shit up once, throw up some content every week or so and get fucking paid while you sleep, if you bust your fucking ass on the front end and DON'T FUCKING QUIT TILL YOU GET WHERE YOU WANT TO BE!!!

    Did it come with a ton of fucking headaches? Fuck yes. Learning how to write: sales copy, email copy, headlines...setting up: website hosting, web page design, squeeze pages, reverse squeeze pages, autoresponders, tracking tools...marketing: adwords, cpm ads, link exchanges, banner ads, joint ventures, dealing with click*bank (at first) then the fucking merchant account and internet gateway...learning to sell: psychology, persuasion, entering the conversation that's already in your prospect's mind, purchasing trends and behavior, membership mentality, ascension, belonging, desperation...FUCK, this is making me tired! And if I knew everything I was going to have to go through when I started I might never have gotten off the ground - but fuck it, you either do it or you don't. How bad do you want it? It's like anything else: you get out of it what you put into it.

    Was it worth it? FUCK YES it was worth it. And I'm still WORKING A FULL TIME JOB, but only because they pay me decent, I do what the fuck I want (I'm typing this at work right now), I'm pretty fucking good at what I do (I fix trucks) and the owners are like a second family to me.

    But by getting shit done online - and doing it consistently - I got my wife out of her job and now she's at home with the kids full time. Health insurance is paid, paid off my car (hers is next), the credit cards and the $7,000 loan I had for a well that had to be put in at my house when the old one went bad. Do you know how fucking good it feels to go to the fucking mall and pretty much get whatever the fuck you want? If you don't let me tell you - it feels pretty fucking good.

    I mean, I'm practically fucking retarded and I got this far. I think that's why I say 'fuck' a lot. All that shit I wrote about having to do up there? I fucking hated every minute of it, and I did it anyway. But I might have never even gotten this far if it wasn't for this place giving me a 'hand up'. So thanks a lot, fellas. I mean it.

    Thanks for the space to put this up, and I'll find a way to pay it forward here somehow. L8r

    P.S. If any of you are or were in the situation I am in (wanting to do more sites, expand, etc) and you have actually hired employees and/or outsourced a lot of the bullshit work (setting up fucking adwords campaigns...I fucking HATE IT!!!!), could you let me know of your experiences (good and bad) or what you did or are currently doing? I've done a shitload of work to get where I am and I don't wanna fuck it up. Thx
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  10. TheJohnPilot

    TheJohnPilot Newbie

    Oct 24, 2008
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    Plikv, nice insight... but for some strange reason, I just get the idea that you're frustrated? shrug.
  11. 007kickass

    007kickass Newbie

    Nov 14, 2008
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    Thanks for posting all that, Plikv.

    Having spent a ton of my money and time learning this stuff, I have to agree with you. Follow how the "gurus" market their stuff, not so much learn from the stuff they sell. Then you can really see the deal. If how they market is in line with what they're teaching, then cool you can learn double quick.
  12. xhanuman

    xhanuman Junior Member

    Sep 28, 2008
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    Excellent... will check it out and hope to post a review as well.
  13. richjerkoff

    richjerkoff Junior Member

    Apr 7, 2008
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    That post from plikv was so good I think he is actually Frank Kern working his Mass Control shit on us.
  14. Zeprokon

    Zeprokon Newbie

    Mar 5, 2008
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    Pliky - Is that Frank Kern?

    Dude...why would a Frank Kern "alias" fix trucks? I
    mean c'mon guys that Kern douche bag would never
    know how to fix a damn truck. I mean...really.

    Kern made his money by teaching dogs not to shit
    in the house...and instead go in other people's yards
    to help enhance the quality of their fertilizer...or something.

    Seriously. I don't see Kern having a character as a "truck
    fixer upper"..that's not something he could do. Although he
    is pretty damn cool on a skate board.

    Besides..he plays video games until noon everyday..and
    then he gets online..sends cartoon porn to John Reese..
    and probably prank calls Eben Pagan's house trying to get
    him to change his long distance carrier. (Ok...maybe that's
    not what he does...but it sounds like something he might
    think is cool while hanging with the homies' playing Call Of
    Duty 4...or maybe it's just me, right?)

    Yes...I seriously doubt Frank Kern would hang out here on
    BHW ...he'd spend his time surfing...besides him trying to
    get all "Mass Controly" here would be uncool...and the key
    to Mass Control is to do things in a cool way..

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  15. SouthernUnderground

    SouthernUnderground Newbie

    Aug 16, 2007
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    Yeah, Frank Kern is a brilliant marketer guys. Just follow what he is doing in all of his business endeavors and look at it all from the masterful mindset of a marketer as opposed to the mentality associated with being a "buyer."
  16. sophist

    sophist Registered Member

    Dec 1, 2008
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    The Most Boring Place On Earth
    Kern has a way with words. He is truly amazing. I have mass control and it is worth the $$$. Like what was said above though. It is not for the noobs. It is really intensive.
  17. digital

    digital Registered Member

    Mar 11, 2008
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    master of myself
    current coordinates