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Markov INFINITE Unique Content VIDEO HERE

Discussion in 'Cloaking and Content Generators' started by ignitesystems, Oct 21, 2008.

  1. ignitesystems

    ignitesystems Newbie

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    Hello,

    I have been working on a web application for generating traffic using Markov strings. I would appreciate if you watched my screencast where I show it off in use:

    The purpose of this post is not to promote a product for sale (it's not ready for that just yet). I just want feedback from experienced blackhatters.

    http://ignite-systems.com/scorpion/video/

    If you would like to see the generated content and site on a real web page go here:

    http://ignite-systems.com/scorpion/internet-programmer-cackle-street.html

    Checkout the page source, note that all pages are .html extensions and note how the content regenerates.

    I would appreciate peoples feedback on this as I want this to be perfect !

    I think I'm on to something major here, so please tell me what you think:

    Ta
    Mike.
     
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  2. undeterminederror

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    Looks good to me :D i don't think i would use that, but i know a coder who charged 1000 EUR for something similar.
     
  3. ignitesystems

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    It uses SMARTY templates so can be easilly modified to any html template. Also it uses a clever redirect mechanism for cloaking. It has been online for 7 days and Googbot has already spidered 6000+ pages.....
     
  4. undeterminederror

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    wp spinner text generated looks a little better: hxxp://www.wpspinner.com/testdrive/
     
  5. ignitesystems

    ignitesystems Newbie

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    Hello, yes this is a nice looking content spinner but as with any spinner software like the content solution it is soo flippin time consuming preparing the article for spinning that it becomes too tedious for most people. This software is designed to take mere seconds to install and setup.
     
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    artswerdstone Power Member

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    That's an awesome user experience. LOL.
     
  7. comparco

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    Mike, looks as if this may have great potential. I have a few questions if you dont mind.
    1: are all the pages generated by town names only, page generation is in blocks of 52k.(could that be modified to cities, countries,states?)
    2: can we mask these pages for SE, and display another for human.
    3: If G sees 52k pages generated overnight, will that not set off alarm bells
    4: how to monitize? CPA, adwords, Aff links, could all be built into the template no?
    5: blend scorpion with LPGEN and we have struck the motherload.
    6: Do you have any traffic stats already?
    7: do you need beta testers, reviewers?

    nice work, I look forward to seeing this develop.
    ps don't forget to contact mods from BST section, when it comes time to sell.
    kind regards
    comparco
     
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  8. ignitesystems

    ignitesystems Newbie

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    Excellent feedback comparco,

    Now for me to let the cat out of the bag, I wanted to keep some of the features a secret for now but I see that there is enough interest arround this app.

    Here answers to the questions:

    1: are all the pages generated by town names only, page generation is in blocks of 52k.(could that be modified to cities, countries,states?)

    There is a text file behind the scenes that can be updated to contain anything, it does not need to be town names, in other words you can put what you like in there, USA towns, Chinese Towns, anything.

    The app will be sold with bundled databases for most countries on earth. And it will come with a library of RSS feeds that can plug into a page via rss parsing module included with the app.

    2: can we mask these pages for SE, and display another for human.

    The app already has a special type of cloaking on it which does what you want.

    3: If G sees 52k pages generated overnight, will that not set off alarm bells

    Yes, it will, also the fact that every time a page loads the content changes, I have about 5 tweeks to make to the app which were recommended by fellow members of this forum.

    4: how to monitize? CPA, adwords, Aff links, could all be built into the template no?

    The system is based on .tpl files, you can literally select or create any html template and then add special tags into the html markup, example to output the pages keyword you enter %%keyword%% in the html.

    There will be a list of tags provided to output the content, the links and the other things like rss feeds, youtube vids etc.....

    An rss parsing engine is included on this app, this can be set to any RSS feed to display random x number of rss transactions. I have also built a special Youtube parser which embeds related videos on the page. (this is also a good method of getting linkbacks from youtube).

    All of this functionality can be configured on a text file. It's simple :mad:)

    5: blend scorpion with LPGEN and we have struck the motherload.

    I will look into this.

    6: Do you have any traffic stats already?

    Still collecting, there are 6000+ pages spidered by the big G.

    7: do you need beta testers, reviewers?

    I will be very interested in testers etc and will post more info about this shortly.

    Finally I am also writing an rss generator as part of this app which will generate random rss feeds and will actually ping them automatically to the feed aggregators based on a timer.

    Because some people like them, I am going to include a scraper module which will be able be configured to scrape any data you like from any source.

    It will take me a few more days to finish this app and tidy it up, then I propose some form of testing, and I am also interested in finding out what a fair price would be for this engine. I need to figure out how many would buy it etc.
     
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  9. undeterminederror

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    This is definitely interesting. can you give a little more details please?
     
  10. comparco

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    ignitesystems, your answers have made the product even more exciting.
    PM me if I can be of further assistance.
    comparco
     
  11. 10kay

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    looks like ur on to something, nice, simple interface ....

    1/can the app create its own feed?

    ../scorpion/rss-feed.xml

    2/ where does the app pull its keywords?

    thnx.
     
  12. StillSmiling

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    My sentiments exactly. I've broken down and started paying for someone to do this. So far, it's a toss up as to which is more cost effective -- paying someone to just give me 10-20 spun versions of an article, or paying someone to set it up so that I can spin it myself (right now, I only need 10-20 versions, but I'm looking ahead, longterm).
     
  13. Sweetfunny

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    That's really the last thing you want for a few reasons, one is the user searches for say "How to tune a guitar" which is what was on your page when cached but when they click you in the SERP's the page is now about "Cooking a Lamb Roast" = Bounced visitor.

    The other is Google caches the page, and decides to rank it #1 for "How to tune a guitar" and your getting 1k hits a day for the term. Next time Google visits, no guitar content and your rank is gone.

    Also your Meta's are backwards, plus all the snippets in the SERP's are showing the same:

    Code:
    This site has 212875 web pages. To make this site grow add more keywords to make more pages, add more content to make the content more flexible
    Code:
    <META content="internet programmer worcester" name=keywords>
    <META content="internet programmer worcester" name=description>
    
    Also look at fluffing the description out a bit, in your template maybe something like:

    <meta name="description" content="View our in depth article on {keywords} and view our free video" />

    This will give it enough text so Google doesn't have to dig in to the page content for a description.

    Overall it looks very good indeed, nice job i will be looking forward to seeing the finished product.

    Edit: Also maybe a preg_replace to swap the dash for a space in the footer link anchor text.
     
  14. ignitesystems

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    Thanks for the feedback and pointers.

    STATS VIDEO JUST RECORDED AND UPLOADED>

    http://ignite-systems.com/scorpion/video/
     
  15. ignitesystems

    ignitesystems Newbie

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    I have added the following features and have good news:

    - Each page now has an .xml version

    - Each time a new page is visited for the first time the xml page is pinged to a list of rss rpc ping sites ?:)

    - Each time a page is reloaded it's markov content remains the same.

    I made a page with the keywords 'marketing online fast' and I got number 1 within 24 hours because of the ping mechanism. Go on g**gle now and type 'marketing online fast' see what i mean ? Check out the number of pages competing for that spot. Cool.

    Please look at my video page again which now has a couple of new vids showing the results on g**g.
     
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    Beta tester from England here.

    quality ignitesystems.

    PM me for beta testing.

    Rudy
     
  18. ignitesystems

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    Hi, I have started a new thread:

    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo/38955-500-number-ones-google-video-look.html
     
  19. winterraven

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    your new thread is gone - sorry.

    So has the "cloaking" mechanism been fixed. I have a white hat site, and I dont want to mess up my google ranking too much with this.

    Also, your page is not even on the top 100 in google for your search term - any idea on why?

    Maybe I should just generate landing pages and then use a simple no follow over to my website...so I get traffic but the big G doesnt follow the path and penalize me for 50K websites....any suggestions?

    Remember - im a white hat...and this is new territory for me!
     
  20. ignitesystems

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    I deliberately reduced my pages down from 40 thousand to about 1000 after worrying about too much too soon etc. This is where the mode 0 or mode 1 comes in. Maybe you should switch to the other mode and this will reduce the pages and give you more control over what keywords are used.

    I was not aware of there being an issue with the cloaking, it does work but you will only see it working when your site is listed in G. It's an improved cloaking algorythm which avoids detection.

    Regarding Blacksting not appearing on the results yet.... I ran my first campaign on a different site ignite-systems.com and this one has more than 500 number 1 search results now. Checkout my results video please.

    Blacksting.com is less than a week old and only just starting to get indexed.

    I was considering putting in an option to switch the cloaking off completely. What do you think ?