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[Market Samurai Analysis] Can someone explain why I can't get my site to rank higher?

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by DenimFrank, Feb 20, 2010.

  1. DenimFrank

    DenimFrank Newbie

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    I've been trying to rank higher for this keyword for a while. As you will see, I've built a ton of backlinks, most of which are PR0 but many of which are PR3+, and you'll see what I mean in another screenshot below.

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    I'm on the 8th position, right below the two PR6 pages which are from EZA. From what I can see, most of the pages ranking for this keyword (which is a micro niche, long-tail keyword) are low PR but seem to have a considerable Domain Age, could that be why I'm ranking lower? the DA for my page is 7 since it's a squidoo lens, so I imagined that would give me a bit of an advantage, and one of the pages has a DA of 2 and it's above some of the higher DA pages. In fact, that DA 2 page on the 5th position has almost no optimization or backlinks, so I thought it would be really easy to rank above that one at least.

    I was hoping to overtake the page on the #4 position. It's mostly optimized, but my page has only one element optimized less than that one. Other than that, it has less backlinks and it's really new. Could I be ranking so low because my page is a squidoo lens? That's the only thing I can think of that could be hindering me right now.

    I'm using the Bum Marketing method, using the squidoo lens as my landing page with links to the sales page. I've made two sales in about 8 months of my lens being up, which is more than I thought I could do. I think I didn't choose the best niche for bum marketing, though, because it's been hard to get traffic. My only real traffic source in the beginning was EZA, but now I'm getting some organic traffic due to ranking on the 1st page of google.

    Thanks a lot of the help, and any tips for ranking higher would be awesome.
     
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  2. footfall99

    footfall99 Regular Member

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    pictures are gone
     
  3. goodtimes

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    Can you reup the pictures? Then maybe we could help...
     
  4. DenimFrank

    DenimFrank Newbie

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    Pictures are back up, I dunno why the hell they went down so quickly
     
  5. DenimFrank

    DenimFrank Newbie

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    Anyone?
     
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    littleg2008 Senior Member

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    well try putting your keyword in the URL and also the meta description tag. That should help you move up quite a bit - Those "N" letters under the columns mean you dont have it. The ones beating you do probably do
     
  7. DenimFrank

    DenimFrank Newbie

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    I don't think I can do that, the reason being because I have a squidoo lens and when I made it I didn't know anything about optimizing the page. I don't think I can change the URL for it, and I don't know about the meta tags. any other ideas I can try to work with.

    thanks
     
  8. Dangazzm

    Dangazzm Regular Member

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    You need the keyword in your description as well if you can manage... I don't do squidoo so I dont know how that would work. But those High PR pages will be kinda hard to de-throne. If you keep building some backlinks steadily. I think its really an issue of the age of the page, just like you said.
     
  9. noph34r

    noph34r Regular Member

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    How many times do you update your lens in a month?
    Old content drops in serps.
    Do you track keywords users use to reach the pages?
     
  10. DenimFrank

    DenimFrank Newbie

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    I haven't updated it actually, how many times should I update it per month? I changed the layout a week ago, if that counts.

    I've tracked a few different keywords that people use to reach my content, but I've never written articles with those keywords or anything.
     
  11. halfpoint

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    You do not have to continually update your site, that is a myth. A static site can rank just as well a freshly updated site, it all comes down to links.

    OP, you need to fix up your on page SEO.

    Why don't you have the keyword in the URL or description tag? Fix that if you can.

    Domain age does play a part but just keep building links. SEO takes time, remember. Fix up your on page SEO and keep persisting with the link building and you will get there.
     
  12. DenimFrank

    DenimFrank Newbie

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    As far as on page SEO goes, do you mean just the URL and meta tags, or do you also mean keyword density and such? I have a hard time with keyword density because I'm not sure how to calculate it exactly, so I was wondering if there's any sort of software I could use to count it. It's 3%, right?

    Anyway, the reason why I can't fix it is because I have no control over it. I created the squidoo lens before I knew enough about on page SEO, so although I lucked out and put part of the main keyword in the URL, it's not all there and I don't think I can change it. not only that, but I don't think squidoo has any way to edit the meta tags for the lens, so I can't do that. Sadly I think I have to figure out some other way to get my site up in rank, so I might start doing forum profiles or something
     
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    i can't find this :
    any help ?
     
  14. MonsterTiger

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    Don't be under the illusion that backlink's and the amount of backlinks are the only thing that will get your ranking high.

    What I would recommend to you is a few authority site backlinks (.gov), that will push you up, and the best bit is you'll only need a few. Second, try some social bookmarking. Remember that the majority of your backlinks need to be anchored appropriately.

    For example your Keyword is 'I love tomato sauce', it would have to be <a href='website.com'>I love tomato sauce</a>

    If your website itself is poorly optimized, then you don't really stand a chance. Ensure that your MetaTags, Pagetitle and other tags such as H1, 2, 3 etc are all being used to their highest potential. Make sure you make use of internal linking, decent navigation and get an XML Sitemap.

    I strongly recommend a read of 'The Art of SEO', which can be found in the downloads section. It's a proper book which costs $45. It has 604 pages - around 300 pages aren't really neccessary - but there are about 50 pages in that book that will help get your in the top spot.

    Oh, make sure your content is unique, original and relevant. If you've spun a couple of articles or something - do a Plaigarism check (free software in the downloads section), that should help you eliminate any potential that perhaps Google thinks your site is using duplicate content. There is also other software in the downloads section that will help you create fresh, unique, relevant and fresh content that google loves. Don't do anything grey - like mess with .htaccess file, although at first will get you good results, it won't last long. (PM me if you want to know more about .htaccess method to rank high:))

    Hope that helps.
     
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  15. halfpoint

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    I was referring to the URL and meta tags. Keyword density isn't all that important. Using your keyword a couple of times on the page is handy, even bolding it once can help, however, it's not imperative.

    Ahh, sorry. I didn't realise you said it was a Squidoo lens.

    Honestly, I wouldn't be targeting a keyword like that with a Squidoo lens.

    It's not an easy keyword to rank for and it's going to take you a fair bit of time and work to get there. What happens if once you do get there Squidoo decides they don't like your account any more and deletes your lens?

    All of your work will have been for nothing. It's very dangerous to build a business based on something you don't own, especially given how quick Squidoo are to pull the trigger.

    I would only ever use web 2.0 properties as "feeder" sites that link to your main money site (that you own).

    It can still work using web 2.0 properties. For example, one of the top ranking "make money online" sites is a Blogger blog, however, it's a very dangerous path to go down and I wouldn't recommend it.
     
  16. DenimFrank

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    Good thing I'm still living with my parents and going to college then. I'm planning on abandoning this niche soon, or at least coming back to it as soon as I can make my own website on it with good optimization, because I know I can rank higher if I do that. I just wish I could make a small amount of quick cash so I could start with adsense sites to test ideas with.

    I'm considering writing a few articles on AC just for a few dollars to start off with. I'm tired of waiting for no sales on a squidoo lens because I started out wrong. I know better now.
     
  17. carmella23

    carmella23 Newbie

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    I found that windows vista is a different set-up

    1. click my computer

    2. click your main or local disk C

    3. click "users"

    4. find the proper file with admin rights and click on it "mine is OWNER"

    5. at the top, open "tools" file and click folder options in the drop down menu...

    6. click the "view tab"

    7. look a lil ways down and find "hidden files and folders" and click the circle that says "show hidden files and folders"

    8. click apply

    9. now just x out of that screen and you'll notice some extra folders have shown up in the "Owners" file, should be at the top and says "AppData"

    10. click on "AppData" file and then find the roaming file and click on that... you should then find your marketsamurai file in the roaming folder to add the local store file...

    Hope this is easy enough to follow, if not please let me know.... Carmella ;)
     
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  18. noph34r

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    They keywords that lead users to your lens should be the main keywords of your lens.
     
  19. DenimFrank

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    Yeah, as far as that goes I'm fine. And I just updated it even though I'm leaning toward static sites being able to rank.

    I think I need to figure out how to get more article traffic to it I guess. I'm still at a loss as far as this lens goes, but when I make an actual, hosted website I think I'll know what to do.