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Manual Action - who to use?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by maxchen, Nov 22, 2015.

  1. maxchen

    maxchen Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    I have 3 sites.

    First site- money site, got about 88.3k backlinks, but only 41.1k backlinks are "live"

    I need help on disavow it but I look through many possible provider in BHW and outside like linkremoval, link detox but I can't reach a decision on who to use.

    Another 2nd site is 3.22k backlinks with 2.02k backlinks live

    3rd site is 9.17k backlinks with 7.24k backlinks live

    Some provider that I talk to count my total backlinks as "total backlinks" but not those which still "live". which provider would you recommend .

    Wonder who can help me on this, mainly is the main site that need , but i would prefer let someone to handle the manual action penalty for the 3 sites.. sorry if i post at wrong section.
     
  2. umerjutt00

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    I guess all these links were made by GSA or some other automated tool. right? If that's the case, it would be more better to just start a new site instead of trying to reverse the manual action.
     
  3. archon10

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    wtf is a "live" link? If it's crawlable, it's a backlink. The 83k site is probably dead. Grats. You spammed your site out of the index. Unless you want to pay some 3rd worlder pennies for poor results, you're looking at a $3-$5/domain charge.
     
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    Where do you pull that xx amount of backlinks tho, i think you only need to worry about backlinks detected on your GWT when doing disavow
     
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    Only really need to look at those in GWMT.
    I wouldn't use a service to do it all. The good ones cost a fortune and the cheap ones rarely work.

    There are parts of the process you can automate though. Services that will send the standard "please delete my link" emails and collate the results for you. This is where the bulk of the work is (busy work)
    Be warned: Google rarely if ever accepts a first recon request. It seems just standard practice to reject the first request no matter how much work you do. They will reply with some links that they consider dodgy.

    The link detox (it's a service) site has some ideas for making the process as quick and cheap as possible. I don't necessarily recommend you sub to link detox, but their info is good

    http://www.linkdetox.com/google-penalty-recovery

    The process is possible no matter how many links you have, it just takes a little longer if you have more.


    Sorry for this bit - in case it sounds a bit "preachy".

    If you have made 10s of thousands of links with a crappy tool - the good news is most "decay" (get deleted, archived or the site they are on gets deleted or de-indexed) pretty quickly.
    40,000 links to one site is not a good sign unless you happen to be a massive site or a large well known corporation. Just the number alone is enough to make Google jumpy without doing one second of link research. They will do that link research before they ban - but if you had say 400 good quality links rather than 40,000 shit ones the chances are you would stay under the radar and rank well no matter how they were created, manual, automated or otherwise (and anyone who says you can't create fantastic links automatically doesn't know shit about effective SEO)

    Scritty
     
  6. maxchen

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    Sorry for giving little information.


    My 1st site was created in Year 2008, and got penalise somewhere at year 2013 where penguin got roll in. For 2 years, until year 2015, I din't know I got penalise as I din't even know the existence of Penguin until I further my SEO studies at BHW.

    I had submitted more than 8 reconsideration. The data "live links" was extracted from "ahrefs".

    I went to GWT and try see my latest links, it show only "2 links". I did 301 of this site and the other penalty site to a new domain, thus I not sure why maybe this could be the reason why my GWT only show I got 2 links.


    I also not sure if I was "GSA Blast" my site in the past, I believe I also got "negative" seo by some competitor in the past because when I was working manually ( I look through all the links for 3 rounds ), I saw some keyword like viagra and penis etc.

    I did try to disavow on my own, with ahrefs full backlink list and also at GWT list. But I couldnt get past manual action.

    The only things that I din't do is to contact the webmaster that got my links to take down my link ( the email part )


    I seeking help to see who I can pay for the service to get this all sorted out. I willing to pay for the 3 sites that I got penalise because I know they still got values.

    Some of the links from the 1st site was build by Visitor of my site since year 2008, they love my site and write article on web 2.0

    Thus this is also the reasons why I wanna keep the site and only disavow those that are not legit and unnatural.



    I sincerely hope someone can show me some light on how to proceed on from here.



    Thanks!
     
  7. archon10

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    First, 301 redirecting passes a link penalty.

    Next, you can't just disavow with manual action. You have to put in the work and show that you made an effort to remove the spam links.

    Finally, make sure you have the www and the non-www registered in Search Console. That's likely the reason why you only see 2 links if you really do have 83k.
     
  8. ThopHayt

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    If you are trying to recover from a manual penalty you have to follow EVERYTHING Google asks of you down to the letter. Get real familiar with the guidelines and the manual penalty you get hit with. Study up. Just as with Thumbtack and their "fast recovery" it comes down to complying completely, and filing.
     
  9. maxchen

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    Thanks for all the great reply. I read each and single of you guys reply and trying to understand my next course of action.

    I would love to engage some company or someone who can fulfill my this role, as due to the lack of time to do a proper job for reconsideration.

    Thus looking for some recommendations on who can I approach to fulfill the requirements of get my manual action revoked.

    Thanks for all the response !