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Making money with an out of country phone number

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by mikecole79, May 20, 2009.

  1. mikecole79

    mikecole79 Newbie

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    I need thoughts, feedback, and suggestions about what's written below. Please share any ideas you have. Also, if you have dealt with a reputable out of country premium number supplier, please tell me who so I can contact them.

    Ok, so here's the plan. Have you ever considered that you can get a premium rate number using the 10 digit dialing rules of the US, including starting with the '1', outside of the country? In a practical sense, what this means is that the number is not beholden to US laws, and therefore does not have to have the preamble saying that it's a premium rate number at the beginning. Let's follow this through to it's conclusion using a neat step-by-step approach.

    1) Secure a premium number, and set it to charge a modest rate. Say, $5 for the first minute, $0.99 each additional minute. Sounds like fun.
    2) Sign up for every effing free offer in the world that you can find, and use that number when they ask for your information.

    Here's where it gets more interesting, depending on how much work you want to put into this. We'll split the steps into 'A' and 'B'.

    3A) Setup a voice mail on that number. Record the longest outgoing message possible, without being too horribly long.
    4A) Every time one of those morons calls you to sell you something, you make $5, $6, or $7. Depends on how long winded they feel like being.

    OR

    3B) Set the number to forward to your cell phone.
    4B) Answer the calls as they come in, and keep the a-holes talking as long as possible, therefore racking up the money. The longer the better.

    There's also another not-so nice thing you can do. Post everything you can find on CL using that number. This gets a little more shady, since you'll be bilking real people, not companies that are specifically set to try to bilk YOU. It also opens up the realm for a lot more money making, though. Post an ad that says something like "we're hiring, we need more help. Starting wage $12.50 per hour. Call this number for recorded information, and leave a message at the end telling us how to contact you if you're interested." Then you record a REALLY long message, and by the time it's all said and done, you make $10 per person who calls to find out about the job.

    And another scenario. Go to a cell phone store with working demo models, dial the number from a couple of them, then set them down and see how long it was connected when you get the paycheck. Do that at 3 or for different stores every day, and you could pretty much just drive around the country doing that, and never have to worry about a paycheck.

    I'm looking for a company right now. The problem is I have to find a reputable shady company. I'm not sure exactly who's the best there. I've emailed a few companies to inquire. I'm looking to do this as cheaply as possible, because I don't have a ton of money just laying around. And I DON'T want a 900 or 976 number because everyone in this country is paranoid and won't dial those. The other numbers would be much easier to get people to dial. Most wouldn't even think twice. And there's the issue of the required statement at the beginning of the call if the service is based in the US, which requires I find an out of country service, because I can't have them getting warnings and hanging up before they can be billed, now can I?

    So. Thoughts, ideas, suggestions, questions, comments, or concerns are all welcome. Please send them all my way. I'll be looking forward to hearing what you have to say about this.

    Mike
     
  2. femir

    femir Junior Member

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    This sounds like a great idea, although in terms of the individuals, just plain douche-y, as obviously, if their willing to work for 12.50$ an hour, then 10$ is gonna hurt...
     
  3. Hyperion

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    I absolutely repulse these kinds of ideas. This is just plain stealing. There is a difference between Black Hat and rip off. It are people like you who make us look bad.
     
  4. fafala77

    fafala77 Registered Member

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    Yes this is an ingenious idea, however, it is beyond blackhat and might get you in serious trouble if you get caught doing it.
     
  5. mpruben

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    "a reputable shady company"

    This has to be one of the best oxymorons I've seen for a while.

    I have to say that I also think that this crosses the line from black hat to theft. What's next? Nigerian scam emails?
     
  6. farfetchedmoney

    farfetchedmoney Regular Member

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    whats so great about this idea? If you google you can read it:confused:
     
  7. bigmoneyX

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    all morals aside, this is a good idea if you can find a company

    if you really wanna be an ass, call random #'s with your premium # as the CID (use a spoof-card) whenever they answer, tell them to shut the hell up then hang up. when they call back all pissed off tell them they just got charged $5.


    really though, don't try this.
     
  8. mikecole79

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    Femir - agreed. I don't think it would be very polite to go raping peoples wallets because they are looking for a job. Too many companies out there doing just that, and I know what I think of them. I don't want to think that about myself.

    Hyperion - Don't tell me I make you look bad. You're stunning command of grammer does that just fine. You may have noticed that I posted this as a 'give me your feedback' idea. I'm not calling your house telling you that I have 'important personal information, please call this number' so please don't try too hard to be clever and insult me. Just tell me what you think of the idea like everyone else did.

    Everyone - I quite agree that this is slightly passed black-hat and into another, somewhat nebulous legal realm entirely. However, here's the facts. If someone chooses to dial a number, that's not anyones fault but their own. Obviously, I would be specifically targeting certain groups in order to 'market' this idea, but unless I went with the last idea I had (going to the cell phone stores and dialing) I don't believe there is anything illegal about this. That would obviously be fraud, and illegal as hell.

    Targeting individuals would be, for lack of a better term, rude. Targeting a bunch of businesses that make their livings by offering you something for 'free', and then calling you to sell you their 'free product' or add ons for a 'one time special price', then sending you emails and calling you every day if they can't get ahold of you.......... Well, let's face it, those people are dicks. I can't think of a better mark for something like this. If you give them the number, and they're not smart enough to verify where it's located before calling, or to have international calls blocked on their system, then it's their problem entirely. So, in the end, I still think that targeting certain less than reputable companies isn't a horrible idea. The biggest question mark in my mind now is how to target these companies. I suppose I could just sign up with each and every one of them requesting 'information'. The other part of this is I'd have to make sure that what I was signing up for is actually one of the companies that's kinda dick like, and not a legitimate business trying to provide a legitimate product. I have pretty good instincts for crap usually, but if I did something like this, I'd want to be sure, not just shooting from the hip.
     
  9. Mollowbass

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    Yeah, tought today of the same idea, Id like the idea but the first sentance about the "this is a premium nummer", at my country they do the same and before you know it they gung up.. so yeah searching for the same country without the premium nummer thing.
     
  10. KrasS

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    do you find any companys which offers premium numbers yet? i would prefer a revshare with the company which supplys the number.
     
  11. bartosimpsonio

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    Yesterday someone proposed a "black hat" technique: offer prizes then make one of your fake accounts win the prize, so you never actually pay out the prize. I got news for you buddy, that's not black hat, that's something else.

    As to OP's idea, people are paying for a toll call without knowing about it, how incredibly clever. That's not black hat, OP!