Major Plot Hole In The Empire Strikes Back

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by Diabolik, Sep 22, 2008.

  1. Diabolik

    Diabolik Newbie

    Apr 11, 2011
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    I found this on my new favorite site It comes from a larger article called "8 Classic Movies That Got Away With Gaping Plot Holes". This one was ranked #1 and had laughing for a long time, in fact I'm still laughing. Wanna read it? Here it goes...

    #1. Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back

    We had to make this number one, not because of the size of the plot hole, but because it's friggin' Star Wars. That's right nerds, the indisputably best one of the series has a pretty gaping hole of its own.

    The Plot:

    You know the plot. Don't play that game.

    The Hole:

    So there's the famous sequence where Luke gets trained by Yoda on Yoda's shithole of a planet. To break up the sequence, the film cuts to the Millennium Falcon getting chased by the Empire to Lando's cloud city. When they arrive, they get captured, at which point Luke has finished his training.

    Well, that doesn't work. Were they chased for months? Or was Luke trained in an afternoon? Either we were spared some extended scenes on board the Millennium Falcon featuring starvation and debates about when they'd have to eat Chewbacca, or becoming a Jedi is easier than getting a cub scout merit badge.

    The latter explanation seems more plausible, as it just reveals Luke to be an even whinier bitch than he seemed. Talk about ungrateful, he's getting taught God-like abilities in about six hours, and he complains through literally every single one of them. It also means Yoda's insistence that Jedis start their training as young children isn't because the training's such a long arduous process, but because he's amused by the idea of children knowing how to choke each other with their minds.

    Now it's true that when Luke tries to leave, Yoda insists the training isn't over. But when Luke returns to Planet Shithole in Return of the Jedi to finish it, Yoda waves him off and tells him there's nothing else to learn.

    Then it turns out the final test Luke has to pass to become a Jedi is to defeat Darth Vader, the most powerful Jedi in the universe which kind of seems like a huge leap in difficulty after his one-day training session. That'd be like if the final stage of your driving test was to win the Indy 500.

    So to answer the question, at what point did George Lucas stop paying attention? It looks like it was part way through the second movie.

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  2. simo

    simo Junior Member

    Aug 11, 2008
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    (Isert franz oz voice here)yes training short time it is
  3. booman

    booman Regular Member

    Mar 6, 2007
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    That's the problem with movies...too short for the entire story line. No different for the Prequels either...
  4. bruce6667

    bruce6667 Junior Member Premium Member

    Apr 6, 2008
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    but he didn't finish his training... he left early.
  5. ugorrogu

    ugorrogu Registered Member

    May 27, 2008
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    I wonder what Gorge Lucas would say about this.
  6. shibumila

    shibumila Registered Member

    Apr 8, 2008
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    Yoda says about BlackHatting - "Don't Try, Do"
  7. StillSmiling

    StillSmiling Regular Member

    Mar 8, 2008
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    I can't believe that The Blair Witch Project didn't make the list! I hated that damn film!! After about 15mins of their utter stupidity, I was rooting for the enemy and cheering at every disappearance.

    Give me a break... Their asses were in the woods. Something is picking them off like flies. Why were they taking their shoes off and sleeping at night? Why were they walking in circles when the Sun always rises in the East and sets in the West? Not only that, but there was is a freaking CREEK right there ... it had to lead somewhere!! OH, but wait, there's more: If you can light a cigarrette, you can start a forest fire. They may not be interested in saving your sorry ass today, but if you set public park lands ablaze tomorrow, you can best believe SOMEBODY is coming for your ass! **They would've found me standing in the middle of the creek waving at the firefighters and cursing at Smokey the Bear...