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Mailchimp do not let me to send my newsletter cause it said " pills" omg. Any Alternative?

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  1. webpfa

    webpfa Power Member

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    Like you read it. I have around 1000 clients, all verified and need to send newsletters ( one time per month ) .
    Searching here I found http://mandrill.com/ , they will be useful for me ?
    I have a supplement store, herbal stuff, etc.
    Thanks !
    PS: The assholes of mailchimp did not refund me yet, or warning BEFORE I did make the payment.
     
  2. jimmylegs

    jimmylegs Senior Member

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    Say supplement instead, seams kinda obvious no?
     
  3. webpfa

    webpfa Power Member

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    yes it is, however they simple stopped my camping without any warning and Now I have to wait for this assholes to "review" the campaing. I do not like it.
    So, any alternative that give you a little more freedom ? I am not spamming or sending junk mails.
     
  4. jimmylegs

    jimmylegs Senior Member

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    Go with another company, mail chimp is for small time store newsletters and they are expensive. I would Google some mail sending programs that are similar just without the fancy looking site.
     
  5. webpfa

    webpfa Power Member

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    I did, but when I test them they suck, for example, the test email went direct to spam box ! while the exactly same email I send as test from mailchimp did not go to the junkbox . This one was of the one I tried : http://www.eliteemail.com/ and did not like it.
     
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    would also intersted in email sending solution? any other one?
     
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    What a finding?

    Shouldn't it be legitimate for supplements, just wait for him to have a simple review. Keep us update here. Did you happen to know how long is the review?

    Thanks,
    Commoner
     
  8. webpfa

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    Nothing yet, but I do not care since I do not like how they work, they should check my campaing first ( since it was my first one ) before charge my credit card. Not even one email was sent and they advice me after the schedule was not done.
    So I am looking for an alternative, any advice ?
     
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    Just avoid using the word "pills" and you're good
     
  10. eimFlood

    eimFlood Junior Member

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    Mandrill is a mailchimp product... If you want a 3rd-party solution, try Constant Contact. They're also expensive, but they get good deliverability and are more tolerant with content. Just make sure your complaint rate is SUPER low.
     
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    Thanks eimFlood ! I used a "clean service " that mailchimp recommend me to clean my email list, so I think I will be available to maintain the complain low.
     
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    The problem with smaller companies is they do not have the same clout that the bigger ones do. Aweber, CC, MailChimp, etc. are all established and can guarantee inbox rates. The smaller guys are sometimes just people who know how to mail and decided to start a business out of it. Make sure you check out the inbox rates of a smaller provider, either by sending a campaign to your own accounts or looking for reviews for them. Even if one test email goes to inbox, it doesn't mean they all will. People pay a premium for the big guys for the ease of use and steady inbox rates.
     
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    th0m4s Regular Member

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    Use the term "tablets"?

    Also yeah, Mandrill is the transactional email branch of mailchimp; all owned by the same people!
     
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    A hygiene service (what you called a "clean service") is only going to clean out bad emails: known traps, bounces and bad addresses, notorious screamers. You could clean the list 100 times and still get a flood of complaints. There are only two main ways to keep super low complaint rates:

    1 - Build a targeted double/confirmed opt-in list and only send the members the kind of content that they are expecting in the frequency that they are expecting(i.e., don't send diet pill offers twice a day to people who signed up for your weekly pet care newsletter).

    2 - Take any big list, hygiene it, and then really beat the hell out of it until all of the responders have responded and all the screamers have screamed. You'll reduce the size of your list by 80% - 90%, but the remaining records will be the most tolerant people you've ever met. The resulting list could then be used at most ESPs without trouble. If you build up enough of a safe list that way, you could then start mixing in new data in very, very small chunks to get new responders and still keep low complaint rates. But, if you have enough resources and technical knowledge to do this in the first place, you could just keep beating the hell out of huge chunks of new data in your system and keep moving the tolerant responders into the ESP that you are using.


    It sounds like you fall under #1, so you'll probably be fine without even using a hygiene service unless it's been 6 months or more since you last sent an email to your list.
     
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    Thanks a lot for your help.
    I am trying constantcontact like a memeber from here recomend me. Going to report here if it works or not. The only problem that I see so far, is that I can not find a way to add a meta tag ( like in mail chimp ) to add clients name on the subject of the email.
     
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    EimFlood : Thanks a lot for taking the time to answer with so much details.
    Although I did the point 1. I have many clients that I never email them before. What service can I use to let all the screamers scream ? simple any like mailchimp, they will close my account, but I least I can eliminate the screamers from my contacts ?
    Thanks
     
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    I just chat with the constantcontact team, incredible, You can not add your clients name to the subject ! ( that is really bad, I think ) . But you can add it to the body of the email ( weird ) .
    I think that a lot of less people will open the email if their name is not on the subject, I am wrong ?
     
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    JasonS: No, I did not.
    Ok, so far on costantcontact, after 30 minutes of sent almost 10 K emails to my clients :
    907 Bounces
    13 Spam Reports
    31 Opt Outs

    I guess the 13 are the "screamers" :) . Should I remove from my list the Bounces too ?
    thanks.


     
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    eimFlood :
    what do you think of the bounces emails ( almost a 10 % ) even after I used the "Hygiene service " ? I should remove this emails ? ( constantcontact ( cc ) show me which ones are ) .
    About the "screamers" ( 17 and counting ) cc do not show me which one are them :( .
    THANKS