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Lost it - A Weary Warning to All

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by Winchester, Oct 21, 2011.

  1. Winchester

    Winchester BANNED BANNED

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    Those of you who know me know that a fair portion of my income comes from product launches and marketing consulting; what you may not know is subsidizing that I had a very healthy Adsense and Amazon ring of sites providing some excellent passive income that really fuelled other projects.

    I used an offshore host called, katzglobal, one of the largest and oldest offshore hosting groups around (second to Shinjiru - where I will now be switching). Yesterday Katzglobal shut down my account emailing me that my account was closed and all services discontinued due to "illegal activity" shutting down my account with 3 separate VPS and ton of dedicated IP addresses I lost my entire Adsense/Amazon farm in one foul swoop. When I enquired as to what illegal activities lead to the foreclosure of the account I was told that Katzglobal felt no need to provide information to those who got their accounts shut down.

    After 4 years of work I am back to pretty much ground zero on that project, but I have already opened up a Shinjiru account and started re-building. Many people backup their websites, files and other projects in IM but many of us forget to backup our cheap content farms, autoblogs and niche sites in ways that they can't be harmed from our own host.

    While this will be a trying time for me as I re-stabilize my income I urge this community to learn two valuable things from this case.

    1) Do NOT use Katzglobal

    2) ALWAYS back up your content farm for a quick move, even if you use "offshore" hosting

    Keep treckin'
    Winchester
     
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  2. todaysmypayday

    todaysmypayday BANNED BANNED

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    Sorry to hear that man, I feel bad for you.
     
  3. hpv222

    hpv222 Power Member

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    What's the problem? Ask your host to give you your sites files and move them - it's as simple as that, it has happened to me more than once and even if you take a few days moving your sites, as soon as they are up, Google will send you the same love as before. The improtant part is to get the files from your host and if you ask nicely, there's no reason for them not to give them to you...
     
  4. treelancer

    treelancer Junior Member

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    Cant you get most of the content back from google cache?
     
  5. Winchester

    Winchester BANNED BANNED

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    It's alright I'm sure I'll bounce back, never give up is the Blackhat spirit but it was quite the surprise and certainly a fair hit for a little while.
     
  6. Winchester

    Winchester BANNED BANNED

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    I've already tried asking, they said the content was deleted which is rubish.

    It's not so much the content thats the issue as most of it was auto anyway, but the time to setup and configure and design all the sites, the investments in infrastructure, was really what was lost.
     
  7. stressfree

    stressfree Senior Member

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    ok so what exactly were you doing?
     
  8. Dj Co2

    Dj Co2 Elite Member

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    I feel bad for you friend.. Has happened to me once but I managed to get a backup of my cpanel from my web host.. Have you tried that avenue? Asked them to provide you a backup of your files.. In my case someone hacked one of my domain's email address and was using it to spam without me knowing about it until my web host suspended my account
     
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    gu3sswh0 Regular Member

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    Sorry to hear this, and thanks for the warning.
     
  10. Winchester

    Winchester BANNED BANNED

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    These were just adsense autoblogs and amazon autoscrap content sites nothing illegal hence I'm advising not to use this host as they seem to have no logic to what they are doing.

    I've tried and get the same generic response stating they wont work with anyone after being removed for illegal activities. *shrugs*
     
  11. gergo2007

    gergo2007 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Try it one more time, if you still get the same answer offer them $100 or some money, i think it will boost a lot the chance of getting a backup, and save you some time.:)
     
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  12. Winchester

    Winchester BANNED BANNED

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    True I never thought of bribing them, but I imagine the guy working at the sketchy Malaysian offshore hosting company can't make much!
     
  13. SahL

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    just remembered.... i havent taken back up for ages :O

    first thing to do tomorrow morning as its late night and im online from my cell phone.

    Thanks winchester.

    You can make them again and might be, better than before , i know you can : Best of luck!
     
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  14. darkface

    darkface Senior Member

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    That really sucks. How many domains did you end up loosing?
     
  15. gergo2007

    gergo2007 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Maybe he can't but maybe he can. :)
    That's why you need to try it. Offer him $50, if he says no then offer $100...
    :D
     
  16. zebrahat

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    Very sorry about what happened, especially shocking to hear katzglobal go so sleazy on you. But this sad case does buttress a point I make to folks about asserting paod hosting is always and forever superior to free hosts, or for that matter domains always being better than subdomains. The argument is usually "you own it, or you're paying, so you're not subject to the third party supplier deleting you or shutting down."

    Folks, unless a site is running on your own server, you don't own it. As we can see from the OP, a paid host with a rep can drop the hammer on you from out of the blue, too. Whether it's a domain or a subdomain, a free or a paid host, you are a tenant renting somebody else's space, or renting a name that can go to somebody else. If you are running lots of content or autoblog farms, it may be just as good to run them on free hosts and subdomanins to save money.
     
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  17. _Bryan_

    _Bryan_ Regular Member

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    Wow, that sucks. Why didn't you just use an onshore host tho?
     
  18. the_demon

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    You can try Google Cache to recover some of your indexed pages / content.

    Best of luck! :)
     
  19. Winchester

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    It is an offshore host..and I did nothing illegal.

    Yea I've managed to scrape some but still reconfiguring the autosites is the timely process
     
  20. jazzc

    jazzc Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    Note to self:

    Back the fuck up soon.

    Sorry to hear you lost so much work. That sucks. :(