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Losing inspiration...

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by HenryHavoc, May 17, 2009.

  1. HenryHavoc

    HenryHavoc Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    Ugh.

    How's everyone doing? Hopefully great, but I'm certainly not. I finally got the boot from EPN today, losing around $400 in profits for the month. Damn that fucking sucks. They're getting a lot better at catching CSers, so watch out everyone. I was in the middle of starting a cookie stuffing course that would be available free for anyone, but since I fail at doing what I can offer to teach, I decided to just stop with it's production. If anyone wants the domain "www.cookie-stuffing.org" then take it, just pm me.

    All my sites have started to show a decrease in traffic, and as of right now, I'm making very little to nothing per month. The only thing that is even remotely close to successful is BlackHatPod, but is also down because of all the negative reviews I got on the past episode and lack of support.

    So everyone, I'm here to ask advice. Is it time to call it quits? I'm a mere 15 years old and I'm losing hope. I've spent the past year and a half molding my life into anything that involves IM, spending my weekends designing webpages and all.. But the losses I've suffered have been huge, and I just don't know what to do anymore. I put in an application to a local McDonalds.. I just think it's time to lay low for a bit.

    Cheers everyone, thanks for all the support. I'll be around, and perhaps I'll find some way to boost my confidence once again. I wouldn't be anywhere near as marketing savy today if I wouldn't have found this forum so long ago.
     
  2. shapeshift3r

    shapeshift3r Junior Member

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    Dont give up. Just take a break.
    Giving up on anything you have put effort into is typically (bu not always) foolish. You just need moderation that suits your lifestyle.

    If your losing money, why not try a method that doesnt cost anything? Or very little?

    Doesnt cost anything to make a nice little whitehat site and throw adsense on it. Build it up with some decent content and a few backlinks. Submit your better articles to social BM sites. You'll make some money.
     
  3. HenryHavoc

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    I've never spent anything on anything other than domains and hosting. And for a long time, I used free hosting... I guess I'll just take a break until something else comes up that I can optimize for..
     
  4. lonny41

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    When you fall you gotta pick yourself up. Do it out of spite if you have to. Confidence is a state of mind son, you have to remember who you are and what you're capable of when everyone else forgets. Only you know what you're capable of, only you are an expert on you, no one else. Others may have opinions, but only yours counts.

    I was your age in 1981.....a while ago. So I've learned a few things since 181 you could say. If you you don't think you have what it takes....then you won't have what it takes. If on the other hand you get up and dust yourself off, and say you know you have what it takes, then you will....garanteed.

    I know you have what it takes......but you gotta know it.

    I know you don't belong at Mcdonalds. The kids that need others to tell them what to do, and make their decisions for them belong there, not you. You already had some success, you will regret giving up and working at Mcdonalds having to listen to some idiot that doesn't have a brain like you do.

    Now get the f**k up off your sad sorry ass and get to work.
     
  5. jetti789

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    This is a temporary setback.
    It's a lesson in how you handle adversity.

    Consider what you have learned as feedback not failure.

    Study what worked and what did not work. How you earned the $400 is something that can be applied again and again. That knowledge is something you learned from taking action.

    I can tell you will be very successful in Im if you do not give up.
    You have the number one ingredient: taking action

    Now dust yourself off. Enjoy your $400 success and find a way to apply the methods again.

    Good Luck
     
  6. DrJekyll

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    You did cs with ebay, thats not the easy way to go.

    How bad do you want it? you are 15, if you get a job at one of those fine establishments, you will be around a level of mentality that will send you back into the game
     
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  7. pyronaut

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    While i dont agree with quitting all together. I do somewhat agree with getting a part time job etc (Hopefully not mcdonalds but beggers cant be choosers).

    I was once in the same boat as you. Where everything kind of fell apart at once, and you are left with no money to build it back up. And it isnt advisable to be pig headed and think you can beat at it till it works.

    I can tell you now, With me going to Uni again and a part time job. I enjoy IM that much more, because your not focusing on OMFG I HAVE TO MAEK MONEYZ NAO. Your just focusing on building what you like doing, like working on white hat sites that dont have to make you trillions now.
     
  8. RaoulDuke

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    Do not give up. You are only 15, imagine spending the rest of your life at a shitty 9 - 5 job. It might be a good idea to take a break for a month and recharge and try to come up with something new.
    Good luck
     
  9. Sweetfunny

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    I really fail to see how you have any problems, you're 15 and no doubt go to school, live with your parents and if you don't make a dime you still eat and have somewhere to live right?

    If so, i wish i was you.
     
  10. madinaz

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    Just try to figure out what you did that allowed them to catch you and try again. You can also move onto something else. At 15 if you want to take a break you can because you don't need to earn money really unless you want to. I say clear your head and figure out what you want to do and whatever it is don't just do it because 1 network banned you
     
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    There's SOOO much shit you can do - don't ever become too attached to any one thing. I "lost" waay more then 400 when I lost my epn accounts but I found other things that do just as well.

    At 15 jezuz - it's not like you lost your job like I did and had to struggle to support a family

    If your in IM your an entrepreneur and as such you can't worry about stuff like "how much I made today" - because your only one step away from that next BIG THING so long as you keep working hard, trying new stuff and believe in yourself

    Of course you can always learn quality skills like PHP,FBML,MYSQL and your services will always be in demand if working or yourself and not being "guaranteed" a paycheck is too scary
     
  12. unknownn

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    make a break for a month maybe take a part time job to remember how much it sucks to work under somebody and think about IM.You will see after a month you will be way smarter and you will also find your mistakes yourself.Myself i have sometimes also downtimes because after 14 years of IM its sucks to sit so long behind the pc ...so i make some vacation for 2 weeks and dont even have a cellphone.I'm very known at my friends that i dissappear sometimes without a word.But the best is always when i'm getting back i got so many new ideas that everyone is always asking me if i have a new inspiration after my journey :D .
    Keep going on once you will have success you will see all will be much easier.But remember school is always on first place and thats no kidding !!
     
  13. MoGreen

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    Dude...you're 15!!! and you have the initiative and the dedication. I admire that, take any other fucking 15 yr old, they're probably doing drugs.

    I lost over $600 last month, which was really discouraging for a starter, but I realized that. For only 2 months or so I'm able to make money online. I just accepted that it's not going to be a quick road to riches, it's going to take time, a year or two doing this and it'll be easier.
     
  14. ru ru

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    Enjoy your time.
    Sometimes doing totally different thing is great for change and will pump you up later.
     
  15. drey2k

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    lol dude you're 15 are you kidding?

    I'm 22 and I'm just getting into the black hat scene.
     
  16. hwolfpack6

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    I'm 15 :D

    Dude, you can't leave. You have taught and helped me so much. I've started to make money (every once in a while :l) - keep trying dude!
     
  17. jakeumms

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    My lil bro's 15. All I did is show him this forum, I live really far away from him so I don't really help. His earnings are now at around $100 a day. Again I didn't help him at all.

    You man, this stuff is pretty easy. Find something mad profitable, and repeat it over and over again.
     
  18. biks

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    I'm 47 and I've worked at *3* McDonalds in my lifetime. (along with a shit pile of other shitty jobs) It's kind of easier to keep your focus when you get older...I know the alternatives and they all suck.
     
  19. playercool

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    Major props for being so young.

    Step back for a few days or weeks and reanalyze. You can really set yourself up if you stick with this. If all you have bought is domains then you really haven't invested that much have you as far as money goes. At your age time is on your side.

    Throw in some hobbies in addition to IM. Get out there and have some fun. Step out of the house and do something else other than being on the computer.

    Get that lousy job if you must but then again at 15 do you really need money? Give yourself some lowly budget and stick with IM. It seems with what success you have had so far you can learn from your mistakes and successes and hit it big.

    Goodluck
     
  20. magcshroom

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    Hop on the opportunity of being 15. You don't have any rent/house payments, no food bills, no expenses pretty much. Keep plugging away and trying out new things. If you work at IM for the next 3 years, i'm talking really work at it, you'll be able to support yourself by age 18.