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Looking forward to buy a Site from Flippa or FE International

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by Elliot2000, Jun 24, 2017.

  1. Elliot2000

    Elliot2000 Newbie

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    Hi everyone, I am looking forward to buy a site either from Flippa or FE International. Some sites costs over 1500 USD+, hence I wanna be completely sure before I invest such a good amount.

    What I wanna know is :
    1 - Those sites that say that the buyer will be able to make 1000 USD+ approx per month, is it true? Is it really possible?

    2 - Why will the previous owner sell such a great site that was already making him 1000 USD approx per month? Also, I have seen some sites generating around 2000 USD + per month and they are also on sell? Why will the owners of such huge sites sell them at first place? I mean it is kinda weird right?

    3 - I was told from FE International that I have hire guys from upwork.com for working on wordpress on my site if I don't know anything about wordpress. So , can it be done? Can I hire them to work on my site?


    Has anyone bought such sites before? How are those sites working for you?

    Kindly give your thoughts.

    Thanks,
    Elliot2000
     
  2. randybishop

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    flippa is filled with scams, i would not buy there.
     
  3. BassTrackerBoats

    BassTrackerBoats Super Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    I'm pretty sure that FEI International would not sell a site for 1500.00 as they only offer top end sites as part of their service but I'm also 100% sure that they vett their sites so that you are going to get what you pay for.

    I've bought through them and have been 100% satisfied with the process.

    Flippa, do your due diligence X 10 to make sure you do not get hosed as they offer nothing other than a platform to buy and sell.
     
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  4. Elliot2000

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    That 1500 USD was just a number and what do you mean by "vett" ? And yeah Flippa seems like a Ebay platform. Empire Flippers and FE International looks very professional and classy.
    You said you have bought from them and you are 100% satisfied. Bro, if you don't mind me asking you, for how much did you buy the site and are you getting the money every month that was mentioned in the info box when the site was listed? And did you buy 1 or more than 1 sire?
    See bro, I need to be completely sure before I make my move. And what do recommend, fe international or empire flippers?
     
  5. uncutu

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    It comes at a risk. If it was 100% everyone on bhw would be talking about all the sites they bought and all the money they are raking in and how easy it all is.

    If you think you can hand over $1500.. .get a site in return. .. make passive income to without any work... you are going to be disappointed and frustrated.
     
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    Vetting means the website will be analysed in order to ensure earnings/stats are adding up based on what the owner has suggested.

    My advice to you is don't bother wasting your money. Build your own website and gain authority over time. The money you have will not be enough to buy a good website from FE International.
     
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    BassTrackerBoats Super Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    Make sure that what is being sold is accurate.
    Yes

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    FEI International
     
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  8. Elliot2000

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    1) Not everyone wants to invest like 2K - 3K USD suddenly, they will get cold feet like me and hence I asked you guys here about all the details. And most of them won't be having that kind of money. They want to invest the lowest possible investment and would want a super higher ROI per month.

    2) I didn't say that I would get passive income without any work m8. I already asked a stuff from FE and he said that they dont have guys to work on my site after the purchase and they pointed me to upwork.com to hire freelancers for wordpress work and other site works.

    Hmm yea m8, they do have a stat and income determining way/tool for complete analysis.
    And I have no idea on how to make a website and almost all the niches are taken and are currently being used for and there are several websites for them. Hence I was thinking to go for an old premade site. Yeah I know that it is an huge investment but ROI is also good tbh.
    Yeah and I can go upto 3k or something for buying a site. Let's see.

    Thanks m8.

    But guys, what I don't understand is that why the original owners will sell such great sites that were already making them 1K + USD per month? It feels weird right? Haha.
     
  9. t0mmy

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    You're not going to get much of a site for that price to be honest OP, not from flippa and certainly not from FEI.

    FEI helped me sell a site for 6 figures a year or so ago, their vetting process alone would cost them more in staff wages than $1500, they are very thorough.. that's why they're the leading guys in that space. I wrote a thread here about the whole process, if you search my profile you'll find it.

    I'd suggest starting to build a site yourself, take that money and invest it in good content then work on some SEO. Sites of that price on flippa tend to be rubbish and a waste of time or even flat out scams, perhaps there's a few golden nuggets there but I've never seen any.
     
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    Normally, a site sells for 12 to 24 times its net profit per month. Correct me if I'm wrong.

    If this is the case, then a site that costs $1.5k to purchase would only be making $62.5 to $125 per month. It would be considered a very small site. Not sure if Empire Flippers even lists sites this small?
     
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    There are many possibilities. Sites always can get slapped by Google, Amazon could lower their commission again or you could get outranked by competitors. If you sell a site, you got that money safe in your hands. Some people even do it to have money to invest into other projects, most people with 1k+/month sites do not only run them as their only site or source of income. Again, some might take on bigger investments (house/car) and just need the money asap.

    The price for a site that is making 1k+ $ per month will be at least 20.000$ if you buy it on a serious broker like FE or Empire Flippers. If the site is whitehat and aged and has a long earning history that might go up to 35.000$.

    Honestly, if you'll buy a site for 3.000$ you'll most likely have to go to Flippa. Neither FE nor Empire Flippers list so small sites I guess. And if you buy on Flippa you might end up with crap if you're not that experienced. You'll end up with a site that will make something like 200$ a month and if you plan to hire someone to work on it then, without really knowing what has to be done, you'll vanish your money. Even if you only spend 100$ a month you'll need two years to break-even (considering a small growth in income).

    Do you have any experience in building affiliate websites? If not, your 3000$ will most likely be wasted because if this is the first site you are working on, you'll end up with mistakes. These mistakes could destroy a stable business in a few days. Get your hands on a own site first and learn the basics of on-page and off-page seo. Try a lot and if you fuck up, you simply restart.

    I might be a especially negative example but I fucked up three sites last year as I started. For the first site I did so many mistakes (keyword cannibalisation, spam backlinks, only a few pieces of content, tough keywords) the cringe was real as I went to that site again to finally shut it down. On the other two sites I repeated mistakes like bad keyword research combined with lazyness to even write enough content on the topic to have a fair chance of ranking. The last site especially fucked up due to me not taking care of the anchors and Google completely ignored my tries to fix it. I spend close above 4 figures and many hours (not enough to make it work but enough that it hurts) on 3 sites that made me 70$ in the end. Great ROI, right? Now that I finally had success it took me one month to earn back all spendings of last year. And I had four of these months already this year ;)

    TL;DR: Learn what an affiliate site does need before you buy a site and try to improve it. How big are the chances you'll buy a plumber business if you've never worked as a plumber? @BassTrackerBoats buys sites because he does know exactly what he's doing. I bet he's running more websites currently than I've registered domains in my entire life (and due to my jobs and projects as web developer, this are quite a few).
     
  12. almanula

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    I sold my own site on Flippa at $1000, it was not doing much just lying around generating very little, it was in a Good Niche and was around for a couple of years. What turned me off from Flippa is the fees that they take from you.. I ended up taking home around $750.

    I have several more sites to sell and will be looking elsewhere.
     
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    you sell earning pages as well ?
     
  14. Mr Cracker

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    I'm not going to suggest there are ZERO sites out there you could invest into, that will make you a return because I'm sure there are some.

    But yeah that's the 100 million dollar question, why would someone sell a small easy to manage website that makes good money unless there was a reason.

    If someone is selling a cheaper site suggesting there's a good return I'd say something is up there, because the smaller the site the less work is involved to manage it, so why leave it on the table and flip it.

    With large websites though that's different, it's understandable because they could be generating great money but that comes with more effort and the webmaster may not have time anymore, so decides to flip it.
     
  15. Peter Ngo

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    Bare in mind that some owners sell their sites because they know their sites will get hit in the short future.

    If you don't know much about web businesses, it is better off putting your 3k into your bank and try building stuffs from scratch first, you will fail numerous times but at least you learn instead of rolling a dice.
     
  16. Elliot2000

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    Bro creating a new site on 2017 on any ongoing niche is already taken as of now and there are multiple sites running on it. So, if I make a site now , it will take years to see some good ROI.
     
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    What are you waiting for? Buy a site. Learn lesson the hard way.
     
  18. Mikaelo

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    As mentioned above, be very careful when it comes to Flippa. Check out Empire Flippers, they are legit & hold a good amount of sites.