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Looking for Professional Blackhat SEO partners

Discussion in 'Hire a Freelancer' started by leozhang2009, Sep 15, 2016.

  1. leozhang2009

    leozhang2009 Newbie

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    We are now looking blackhat seoers.

    If our site is on top 3, we can earn 1000-2000USD.

    Here are the two ways we can cooperate

    1. we pay you with paypal or bitcoin if you get our site top 3.
    2. you earn % of each order from google.

    Please let me know if you are interested.

    skype is onlygamegold

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    Please dont add me if you are not good at seo.We wont pay first, if you accept this. please add my skype, or we dont have to waste each other's time.
     
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  2. davids355

    davids355 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    So you want us to take all the risk as well as do all the work?
     
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    leozhang2009 Newbie

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    im new to the seo. i dont know the rule to hire a seoer. do work first or pay first?
     
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    What, you expected to get paid upfront while they take all the risk? :p
     
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  5. royserpa

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    Pay first, work later. That's usually the standard business practice.
     
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    i will think about it. but its hard to pay first if the seoer cannot assure site rank. its hard to keep balance between seoer and emplyer
     
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    If any one who is good at seo. just let me know.
    my keywords is too hot.
     
  8. royserpa

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    Well, any good seo guy will not guarantee results. That's the name of the game. If you get guarantees of rankings, be very careful with scammers. People will guarantee anything for your money.

    Anyway, if you would like to talk, add me on Skype: omegapiratejoe

    Be careful!
     
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    good advive. thanks i add you on skype.
     
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    You want BH SEO and Guarantee as well? lolz..
     
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    i dont know too much about seo area. most people who guarantee rank are scammers?
     
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    im from china, and if someone here from china is good at seo. we can talk on the phone.
     
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    If you want that sort of arrangement then you need a JV. But if the only thing you are bringing is the keyword then the other party is probably going to want around 80-90%.
     
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    Still if I were to JV with someone and I can rank, I would rank it myself than giving 10% to someone that wouldn't do anything imho.

    Better to get paid upfront.
     
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    100% agreed actually.
     
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    Exactly @royserpa . Op it's a bit insulting that you are basically asking someone to do all the work for you and take all of the risk on your behalf just so you don't have to take any risk.

    It's like starting an offline business and then asking everyone to work for free on the basis that IF the business takes off they will start getting paid.

    I guess it's the allure of how much a keyword or a niche can make that draws you in. But the reality is that SEO is like any other business - if you want to be successful you have to invest money, you have to be prepared to take risks even though the project might fail.

    But you want to skip all of that part and go straight to the success, at the expense of whenever you hire here.
     
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    you are right. if we know each other in reality. its easy to pay. but on the internet. im afraid of paying first. so that hard to deice which site go first
     
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    So I guess you don't use sites like ebay, amazon or any site at all to buy stuff online? I mean, you don't get to see anyone on the internet. :p
     
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    i dont use ebay and amazon. but i use taobao. i know pay first. but hiring seoer online is different. im afraid that i cannot get money back if people scam me.
     
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    Exactly. That's my point. That's why don't you go with shady people and you go with reputable people that actually gets the job done.

    Seriously, don't expect someone reputable to work for free for you. If it happens, be ready to get scammed. Simple business standards.
     
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