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Looking for advice on driving Adult traffic!

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by stealthy, Aug 11, 2008.

  1. stealthy

    stealthy Newbie

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    I am looking for some advice from an experienced adult webmasters on where to go for lots of quality adult traffic? Either free or paid. I am trying to get an adult site off the ground and bang in some affiliate bucks. I have tried a couple free ways listed on here - Social network, forums, chat rooms, etc. Now I'm at a point where I just want to pay money for TONNES of traffic. Where would YOU go? Where shoud I go!>? Lemme know! :D
     
  2. mazemiami

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    you and the rest of the adult community ;)

    check out xbiz.com
     
  3. Mr Sandman

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    Honestly man this is a bad time to get into adult business with all of the free porn floating around, but you can check out these sites for a TON of info:

    netpond.com
    gfy.com
    greenguyandjim.com
     
  4. seologist

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    dude fuck adult, ratio's are horrible unless you're doing something very niched. if you're trying to do adult type shit do dating or cams. i'm saving you a lot of hard work trust me on that.
     
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  5. loreen

    loreen Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    seologist is mostly right.
    Go niche and then SEO your pages.
     
  6. Zwitterion

    Zwitterion BANNED BANNED

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    There's an adult traffic seller on ebay.
    I can see that he has many buyers there
     
  7. themagician

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    '...I have adult sites. Suggest you trash them unless they are highly niche.

    The hottest niche at the moment, and has been for awhile is XXXXXeXXXX. Hey, I can't give away all my secrets. I am a magician, after all...lol

    themagician
     
  8. dirtbag

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    ding ding ding.

    take it from someone coming from adult to mainstream and blackhat, adult is a dying shithole. you'll be doing yourself a favor by staying away from it. i do make pretty solid money after 2 years of adult blogging, but it's all niche, and it's heavy whitehat seo, with a tiny bit of greyarea link building...
     
  9. CyberDilemma

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    Yeah, niche is definitely the way to go. My pregnant, lactating, polynesian, transgendered midget cam girl is a pure money making machine. That's how I can afford the fine pimp daddy bling.
     
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    '...As distasteful as it is, (I am a sensitive Brit) You are right - this is where the money is and exactly what I do, although switch Polynesian for Thai...But very high-end.

    themagician
     
  11. CyberDilemma

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    lol....I didn't know Thai and high-end could be used together in the same sentence. Power to you, brother!
     
  12. dirtbag

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    you only need three words to make money in adult...


    chicks with dicks...
     
  13. dirtbag

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    ok, so anyways, to answer your traffic questions. you have some options. but it really depends on the type of sites or pages you're building. tgps/mgps? blogs? tubes?

    for the sake of it, i'm going to assume you're blogging, being as this tends to be the best startup spot for people in adult right now. you honest to god best bet is to build a well seo'd blog. make sure you theme is well seo'd take care to choose good keywords and maintain appropriate density in good keyword rich seo'd text throughout each post. blogs are all about words. from here, build links. you can purchase high pr backlinks for pretty reasonable prices. gfy.com's buy & sell area should have plenty of pr backlink packages for sale at a reasonable price at any given time. you can also build your own backlinks largely through any combo of white/grey/blackhat techniques. you also have the option of buying clicked traffic. blacklabelads.com is the adult equivalent of adwords/adsense, though i personally wouldn't recommend this traffic as it never did shit for me. i also wouldn't recommend running the blacklabelads adzones on anything other than rss fed blogs. you're just leaking your quality search engine traffic for pennies by doing so. if you're looking at buying clicked traffic, check out buyfpctraffic.com and look into their clicked traffic. it maintained fairly high prod for me. and costs around 3 cents a click.

    for tgp/mgp sites you have a few options. buyfpctraffic.com again has skimmed traffic, as well as trafficholder.com and chokertraffic.com. trafficholder's general traffic is about as cheap of skimmed traffic as you will find anywhere. though i'd suggest looking at buying your traffic either by niche or country. this will obviously keep your production up. if you're doing a tgp/mgp, get yourself a clean design, handcrop your thumbs, and you will actually maintain a decent level of production as far as clicks to galleries are concerned. to grow your traffic you should be adding new links out to other tgp/mgps at a steady pace, and skimming traffic towards them as you buy traffic, this in turn will start them skimming traffic back to you. there's a handful of excellent tutorials on this out there, so i won't go into it here . if this is the route you're going i suggest you look around for them.

    tube sites. well, you have a couple options here still, chokertraffic is now selling clicked traffic for tube sites from tubesites starting at $3.25/1000 clicks, which is probably your best bet as far as buying traffic goes. you could probably make do with buyfpctraffic's clicked hits.

    for any of the above you always have the option to buy links on well established high traffic adult sites, i personally think that buying well positioned text links is your best option, though you can consider text or button links. i just had better luck myself with visibly placed text links. shop around, there's plenty of people selling.

    hope this sheds some light on your question.
     
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  14. stealthy

    stealthy Newbie

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    To all the comedians - Thanks for the replies! lol

    To the 'dirt bag', lol. You da man. It looks like I have alot of work to do. I dont have time to build links, SEO, etc. So I am lookin to just spend money to throw traffic at my site daily! I will look into the sources you provided and maybe even buy some links. Thanks, 'durty'!
     
  15. applebutton

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    Depending on what kind of adult site you are running there is lots of traffic available through traffic trades. Set up a site for trading and grow the traffic then push it wherever you like. A good thing about adult traffic is that it is use to getting abused.
     
  16. seologist

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    i don't know if you're new or not. but if you are i'd completely stay away from bought traffic until you really know what you're doing.

    just saying a lot of newbies buy traffic get scammed, and if they don't get scammed they don't know how to convert it. either way its wasted $$. so just saying be careful buying traffic unless you know what you're doing.
     
  17. dirtbag

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    i agree fully. bought traffic has it's place, and alot of people don't know it. if you're new to adult, do not waste $$$ directly on buying traffic. your best money is in finding a niche, the more microniche the better, and learning to abuse the search engines. i'm not going to point out the places i'm making the most money obviously. my adult stuff is pretty whitehat, and i got a couple years into finding out what sells for me. targeted search engine traffic extreme niche sites is where there's good money. once you've learnt to convert some traffic, then look into buying traffic. otherwise you're likely sinking your cash down a big whole.

    either way, making money in adult is a hard fought road right now with rampant piracy. the next generation of pron consumers just has that "there's no reason to pay for porn" mentality. free porn is everywhere, and there's no difficulty in finding it, at the best quality, in full length anymore. i've had my good months, but i've piled alot of hours into some pretty dead months too. i don't like to be too pessimistic, but i have to say, some of the best advice i can give to someone looking to make money from scratch in adult is, don't bother. there really honestly isn't any room in adult for the affiliate anymore, and in the next couple years this is going to become even more clear. the big money is in selling to other webmasters, which is in a way kind of sad. you should be making money off the programs, i made my lump sums of webmasters who don't know any better...
     
  18. BuzzKill

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    A well known member on here makes a ton with ladyboy traffic. Adult is nothing compared to what it used to be, the majority of the big players have moved on to vitamins, energy drinks, and call centers.. Oh and prison..
     
  19. Krazy Kitty

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    I got into adult over 10 years ago. I wont bore you with my biography; I just want you to trust my advice.

    Adult is the last sector I would advise anyone to enter - but, contrary to popular belief, it is still very much possible to earn well and even rise to the top. Unfortunately, the information required to do so is more highly guarded than Fort Knox; adult webmasters are, on the whole, less willing to share their secrets than their mainstream counterparts.

    That being said, I'll get to answering the question: getting adult traffic. You've already been given great advice. I wont repeat it; I'll just add to it.

    Traffic trading.

    This is an art form. The best people at it are those who own tgps / mgps / link lists. I would advise you to steer clear of tgps and mgps unless you go microniche, choose link lists if you are in for the long haul, but - and this is being used hardly at all - use traffic trading tactics with an empire of blogs, just as you would with tgps mgps. The traffic is far - FAR - superior to tgp-traded traffic. Go to gfy to find trades.

    Paysite Traffic

    There are deals to be found everywhere. The trick is getting deals that are not too well advertised. Go to paysite owners and ask to buy advertising space. I will give you a magic tip here that will make you money. MAGIC TIP: Find CCBill paysite owners who want to sell advertising. Most of them never consider doing this and you will get some killer deals. This is THE BEST source of traffic: surfers who have proven to use their credit cards.

    Clicked Blog Traffic

    The title says it all. Do not go through a broker. WHY? Because I'm trying to save you money, increase your margins. Approach individual blog owners and ask for advertising space. Like the paysite owners most will never have considered selling it and it is quality, niche filtered traffic.

    I hope that helps. I could write all day but this post is already way to long and my paws are tired. Good luck!
     
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  20. dirtbag

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    like i said, chicks with dicks.... almost anyone can make some sales on the ladyboys right now. i hardly promote shemale itself as a niche, and i still rock out some great shemale sales.

    go microniche, build a community, build trust, and dig for bookmarks and return visitors. once you have a trust built and a connection with a base of return traffic then you will make some sales. don't promote shit to them, check it out first, find good offers and suggest them to your traffic. don't ever break the trust of your return visitors by promoting shit.

    if i can give you any other good advice ti would be to stay a LONG way away from any type of general pornstar, babe, or sologirl type of sites. the conversions are fucking terrible.

    Sounds like you tgot in when making money was still something you could do with banners :eek: that is an excellent piece of advice i never thought of myself. buying access to proven traffic is a great idea...