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Long tail keyword & market samurai settings:when are the keywords good enough for newbie?

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by Lenna, Feb 21, 2015.

  1. Lenna

    Lenna Registered Member

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    Hi all,
    So, I spent around 3 hours using Market Samurai last night for a single niche. MS kept spewing the same 800 keywords, which I guess makes sense as I only worked with one main keyword.
    I won't go into specifics, but since I wanted to work with a health niche, the top 10 in Google no matter what the LGT is seems to always be "webmd", "health", "about" and "wikihow". Even if the keyword was 6 words, the results were the same.
    I got this when the SEOT was very low too.

    How is that possible? Is the main keyword just too competitive?
    In other words:

    If my keyword is "smurf", when I get "treatment for smurf" "how to cure smurf naturally" "is it possible to heal smurf" the competition (websites in the top 10) are pretty much always the same. I read the MS tutorial on their website and it didn't help me.

    How can I know if the competition for top 10 won't be too stiff? What are the most important parameters in MS?


    What are the parameters when researching for LGT that should remain green or at least yellow in the software in the top 10 competition?

    For finding good long tail keyword for a newbie, what is the lowest SEOT you recommend? I'm currently not going below 4. MS recommends 30 on their website, but IMO that's way too high.

    If everything, including the most obscure LGT, seems too competitive, should I change my keyword a bit?

    Okay, I think that's it. I hope I'll finally be able to find good LGT with your advice!

    EDIT: So, it's worse than I thought.
    If my keyword is smurf and I search for the adjective smurfed and the word smurfing, the same keywords still pop up.
    Wondering if there's hope for this niche.
     
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  2. Lenna

    Lenna Registered Member

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    Bumping this because I'm still looking for good keywords and it's driving me crazy.
     
  3. Lenna

    Lenna Registered Member

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    Bumping this again.
     
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    health niche is too competitive , try product based keywords like product reviews, product ingredients, product scams. Google is working with Mayoclinic which will effects 40k medical related keywords so this is really not the best time to enter medical diagnosis related keywords
     
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  5. Lenna

    Lenna Registered Member

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    Hi and thank you for your help. That makes sense. What do you mean by product-based keyword? Am I allowed to use brand name for product-based keywords?
    I'll try finding other niches on Clkbank. I need something evergreen.
     
  6. Tokiako

    Tokiako Newbie

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    I'm exactly in the same position. I've been searching for good keywords in health niche for some time now, and every time no matter how long my keywords are, I get webmd, health and etc. I have a feeling we are little too late for this niche though somehow people seem to pull it off anyways ?
     
  7. Lenna

    Lenna Registered Member

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    That's exactly what I'm wondering.
     
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    The best keywords for noobs are actually the medium competitions ones as nobody competes for that market share.