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Living in the USA!?!

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by craig-spencer, Jul 14, 2008.

  1. craig-spencer

    craig-spencer Newbie

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    Hi guys,

    For those that don’t know, i am looking to move to Atlanta, Georgia in about 2 years, from Manchester England.

    I am currently a semi-pro wrestler in the UK, but as we know the only places to make a living in wrestling is America, Mexico and Japan.

    I cant speak Japanese or Spanish (yet) so its the US for me. Plus Atlanta has the WWA4 school.

    What I would like to know is where is the best area in Atlanta for the style of living within an 'average' spend band?

    I see the Coca Cola factory is a big employer in Georgia, so that’s a safety net (no disrespect to people that work there) but what trades are they screaming out for??

    I have been researching and researching yet I would like to hear from people that actually live in Georgia.

    Also, I am currently making $80 - $100 per day with CPA, yet I need more lol, (don’t we all!!)

    I am crazy busy, but that’s the way I like it.

    Is anybody willing to teach me/ advise me how to double or even triple that?? I am willing to pay a reasonable teaching cost out of the money made.

    As you can see from my weekly schedule, I am a hard worker and not scared of commitment.

    I am running a £13 - £15k ($26 - $30K) per year day job, a £20ish ($40ish) per day on CPA after work, (but that’s running dry) and Wrestling Friday, Saturday and Sunday (not much money, but priceless experience)

    Any advice is much appreciated, whether its about living and working in Atlanta, or IM.

    Regards
    Craig.
     
  2. havokb8

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    I think maybe Essential Clix can answer this question
     
  3. entity

    entity Registered Member

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    By wrestling you mean traditional wrestling, or the stuff that Hulk Hogan and The Rock did?
     
  4. craig-spencer

    craig-spencer Newbie

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    its the American style, 'sports entertainment' wrestling.

    Although obviously, being from Britain there are some variables on how its presented.
     
  5. entity

    entity Registered Member

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    Cool, I love WWE shows. :)
     
  6. themagician

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    ...I was under the impression the British, unlike the Irish, had a hard time getting permission to settle in the U.S.

    Here is an answer to: "What is the criteria for a Brit to move to the U.S.A.?"
    from Yahoo Answers:

    It is a very hard country to get a visa/ green card for if you're British. There are a load of different visas available, but the most common ways of access are:

    1. Work visa- have a US company sponsor your move to the US, they have to guarantee you the job- this process has a limited number of visas (and the jobs that are in higher demand are more likely to be fulfilled). If you get a job with a company in the UK (with a US office) you could always try ask for for transfer to US (I think you have to work 8 months in UK first).

    2. Green Card- enter the lottery, so very very very over-subscribed... chances of getting green card are very very very low!

    3. Invest a large chunk of money into the US (either $250,000 or $500,000- i can't remember because I'll never have that much money)


    With security even tighter since 9/11, my brief research suggests it is even more difficult.

    You say you have been researching this and so clearly you know much more than I do and I wish you luck. Maybe the rules apply differently to Sport and Entertainment.

    Your research has no doubt taken you here:

    http://www.usa.gov/visitors/work.shtml

    and here:

    http://www.usembassy.org.uk/

    If you are successful, I would be interested to learn how you did it, purely out of curiosity.

    If you are unsuccessful, Spanish is an easy language to learn, but I can't say the same for Japanese.

    Again, GOOD LUCK!

    themagician
     
  7. craig-spencer

    craig-spencer Newbie

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    yeah i realise how hard this is, Spanish becomes more appealing every day, especially as my size is more tailored to Lucha-Libre (Mexican style of wrestling)

    Although i am surprised by the amount of WWE, WCW, ECW and even TNA stars i have met that can speak Japanese, its quite inspiring!

    I just wanted some basic info to try and prepare as best as poss.

    I think my best way is to use the trade i am currently learning (certified database specialist) and get guaranteed employment before my move.

    I will keep you all posted as i know this will be an interesting read (if nothing else)

    cheers guys
     
  8. themagician

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    ...It is really easy to live and work in Spain, as it is in the European Community, but only if you are British or from any of the other member states.

    themagician
     
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    By Spanish, he is referring to Mexico ...
     
  10. themagician

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    ...Thanks for that correction. Sorry about the confusion. It's late here and with that gaff, it's off to bed for me.

    themagician
     
  11. craig-spencer

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    lol, cheers DeskCoder,

    I was about to say the same, but there is a very 'underground' feeling towards wrestling in Spain, and there is infact a massive company out there, but they only employ ex WWE and WCW guys.

    I thought I had a real wrestling fan there, but then realised it was probably just a mistake lol.

    I think i will start to study Spanish after I have finished my Certified Database Specialist training.

    Hmmm I wonder how long it takes to learn Japanese lol ...............
     
  12. themagician

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    ...Don't know your personal circumstances craig-spencer, but the easiest way to learn any language is to take a native girlfriend once you get to the country of choice...and if she's going to be a latina, they're as hot as hell...lol

    If you want to get a head start on whichever language, the best course is Pimsleur, but it is expensive. No matter, you can download the languages FREE here:
    Code:
    hXXp://thepiratebay.0rg/search/pimsleur/0/99/0
    themagician
     
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  13. craig-spencer

    craig-spencer Newbie

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    cheers themagician,

    Not sure that my girlfriend (also a wrestler wanting to move to the US with me) would be up for me getting a native girlfriend, although she is open minded and often ask if i want her to bring a friend!!

    I wonder if she has any Spanish friends??
    hmmm ..................................
     
  14. craig-spencer

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    Actually, thinking about it, she has a qualification in sports science and personal training.

    I cant seem to find if there is a call for this trade in the US, could somebody enlighten me?
    Im sure that its probably not a called for trade, but as we will both have qualifications, it can only help eh!

    And for those of you wondering, no i havnt taken her up on her offer of a friend, not yet anyway lol ;-)
     
  15. JohnDoe

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    Learning Spanish would be much easer than leaning Japanese and could help you to get sponsored to move to a Job in the US. (depending where your moving to I know it was what I was asked a few times :) but I am looking to move to the midwest)

    You have 2 years so you have a lot of time to learn a language as well as to get your cert for your DBA. As its always good to have a fall back career in case the wrestling does not pan out. As others have said its not just a case of jumping on a boat and getting the US any more. You will need that job sponsorship in place before you can move over. Have you looked in to some sort of sports sponsorship ?
     
  16. craig-spencer

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    JohnDoe, thanks for the info mate,

    Yeah I have got the DBA as a back up plan, as over here you can expect £35K ($70k) min per year, so that’s the fall back plan.

    As for a sports sponsorship, there is no chance of that, not over here.
    Pro wrestling is considered a sport in Japan, a lifestyle in Mexico, entertainment in the US and a joke in the UK.

    It isn’t even considered a sport over here, despite the athleticism that goes on. I would love to see a 6ft2, 18 stone man do a corkscrew backflip in any other sport!

    I am waiting to hear back from emigration service companies that help you get jobs etc.

    I can see this thread going on for a while. That’s not necessarily a bad thing, im sure people would love to read about somebody chasing their dream on the opposite side of the world.

    If only there was some way to make cash off it, hmmm ............
     
  17. JohnDoe

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    Its getting late here but I will post up a few good visa sites that i used am also useing at the moment to help with my visa :) I am also English and moving to the US later this year.
     
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  18. craig-spencer

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    wow, cheers mate

    much appreciated.

    i suspect we shall be speaking alot more in the near future lol
     
  19. scubaslick

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    Well, depending on where in Atlanta you decide to settle, you'll likely be very pleasantly surprised by how inexpensive living in the US is when compared with the UK... or anywhere in the western EU. Your online income is enough to survive on.

    I didn't say prosper, but you can live relatively comfortably on $1500US a month. Small apartment (flat), eat well, nice neighborhood. So were I in your shoes, I'd focus more on growing my online income to $3k a month(ish), find a silent partner here in the US and open a US branch office. Instant excuse for working Visas, deductible travel expenses, plenty of time to train etc.

    By the way as a conversational speaker of both Japanese and Spanish (English is my primary language), I would say Japanese is actually much easier to learn so long as you focus on your "niche" when you try to get your vocabulary up. The verb/noun structure is somewhat different than English, and of course you probably have zero frame of reference to start with, whereas in Spanish you probably, just by association with Europe/US culture have a small vocabulary.

    But if you focus on your niche, not only will you quickly overcome that deficit, you'll be much more likely to stay interested in the learning curve. What I mean is, if you can only learn 1000 words of Japanese in two years, you need to learn the basics to survive (travel, lodging, food, help) and spend the rest of your mental space on the groups and activities you're going to be around. (Body slam, eye gouge, forearm bar).

    In either case, if you can make a single dollar online, you can overcome these minor obstacles to doing what you love.

    Do you smell what the scuba's cookin'? :)
     
  20. themagician

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    ...Sorry to go a bit off topic but now I'm fascinated by what you've said scubaslick.

    I have to defer to you as I only speak English and Spanish, schoolboy French and can understand Italian but have to respond in Spanish and now I am living in Thailand I am struggling to make sense of Thai. I have always wanted to learn Japanese and I am truly shocked that you say it is easier than Spanish, on a conversational level.

    I shall investigate further as I am now very intrigued. Amazing what you learn on this forum.

    themagician