Linux is a joke

umbreno

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Far from being ‘the most secure operating system’ in the world like it’s cult following blondly appears to assert for no reason, the facts of the matter here reveal a totally different picture. Here are the CVE details of popular system system software:

2023

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2024

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Of all time!

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Firstly, seems to some how astonishigly be some kind of misconception even today that linux is an operaing system. It isn’t. It’s a kernel using which seemingly anyone can build their own operating system, of which we can see there now dozens and dozens, possibly hundreds if we include all the proprietary distributions. But the latter don’t count here because they put millions in to privately funding and customising their distros for their own benefit even to kernel level to the point it becomes irrelevant to the average consumer. They are not what’s in question here. But what is in question and relevant here, as the above demonstrates, are most of the popular GNU distros and even the Linux kernel itself. As the above show, they are riddled with security flaws, including innumerous user-level bugs and seemingly always has been.

One problem is the lack of a real and commited developer base. The Linux developmenet community is a mixture of the two extreme of big tech charities, where if you don’t play by their rules and forecasting, you don’t get a say no matter how good you are, to the other extreme of every amatuer developer the sun wanting to contribute or have a go at publishing their own distro to show off how ‘good’ they are and this all results in ‘Linux’ which is just an empty title with no rhythm or rhyme; one change in a component, or even a bug at kernel level makes it nigh impossible for a distro’s developers to see the bigger picture and implement any changes because at this point, Linux kernel development is done practically in entirity by big tech conpanies who don’t give a shit about debian or fedora or other gnu distros or the open source commuities. The CentOS fiasco alone is a testimony of this.

The other extreme is Windows 11, the conglomerate, whose gamut of fancy, but often totally useless apps and software are designed to maximise vendor lock-in and an excuse to mine user data. And of course, all that comes with being able to watch the entire system often fall like a house of cards everytime something goes wrong. And it often does as the above chart demonsrates. At least ‘Linux’ has excuse in that it’s not even a real system, but just a collection of practically independant “Linuxes” that have no idea or care about what the million other “Linuxes” are even doing but only converge in so far as collectively suffering from not knowing what bugs and flaws any reckless kernel developement and updates will have on their system, as well as sharing the shiny commercialised wrapper of “Linux”. But in Microsofts case, it is baffling how such a big, monlithic system manages to fuck so bad and so often too.

To Mac developers and uses “Linux” just seems like a cheap toy at this point, wheras Microsoft represents corporate greed at it’s finest.
 
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All of what you just said shows how poor your understanding of deeper-level computer security is.

You’re off by a long shot.

Please, understand what CVEs are before making such wild statements.

Oh yes, I don’t claim to be a computer engineer or anything like that. But what i’m seeing is a system which has just been glued together as per any distro’s lead team’s fancy.

But here are some finer points to consider - https://madaidans-insecurities.github.io/linux.html

Feel free to refute them since you’re apprently ‘in the know’.
 
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I agree. The issue with Linux is it takes so much tinkering to get what you want working it's a massive time suck. I remember when I wanted to play a game in a community and I was doing a "switch to Linux challenge", a guy remoted into the PC and started coding DLLs so the game would work. Linux isn't going to replace Windows anytime soon.
 
Far from being ‘the most secure operating system’ in the world like it’s cult following blondly appears to assert for no reason, the facts of the matter here reveal a totally different picture. Here are the CVE details of popular system system software:

2023

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2024

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Of all time!

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Firstly, seems to some how astonishigly be some kind of misconception even today that linux is an operaing system. It isn’t. It’s a kernel using which seemingly anyone can build their own operating system, of which we can see there now dozens and dozens, possibly hundreds if we include all the proprietary distributions. But the latter don’t count here because they put millions in to privately funding and customising their distros for their own benefit even to kernel level to the point it becomes irrelevant to the average consumer. They are not what’s in question here. But what is in question and relevant here, as the above demonstrates, are most of the popular GNU distros and even the Linux kernel itself. As the above show, they are riddled with security flaws, including innumerous user-level bugs and seemingly always has been.

One problem is the lack of a real and commited developer base. The Linux developmenet community is a mixture of the two extreme of big tech charities, where if you don’t play by their rules and forecasting, you don’t get a say no matter how good you are, to the other extreme of every amatuer developer the sun wanting to contribute or have a go at publishing their own distro to show off how ‘good’ they are and this all results in ‘Linux’ which is just an empty title with no rhythm or rhyme; one change in a component, or even a bug at kernel level makes it nigh impossible for a distro’s developers to see the bigger picture and implement any changes because at this point, Linux kernel development is done practically in entirity by big tech conpanies who don’t give a shit about debian or fedora or other gnu distros or the open source commuities. The CentOS fiasco alone is a testimony of this.

The other extreme is Windows 11, the conglomerate, whose gamut of fancy, but often totally useless apps and software are designed to maximise vendor lock-in and an excuse to mine user data. And of course, all that comes with being able to watch the entire system often fall like a house of cards everytime something goes wrong. And it often does as the above chart demonsrates. At least ‘Linux’ has excuse in that it’s not even a real system, but just a collection of practically independant “Linuxes” that have no idea or care about what the million other “Linuxes” are even doing but only converge in so far as collectively suffering from not knowing what bugs and flaws any reckless kernel developement and updates will have on their system, as well as sharing the shiny commercialised wrapper of “Linux”. But in Microsofts case, it is baffling how such a big, monlithic system manages to fuck so bad and so often too.

To Mac developers and uses “Linux” just seems like a cheap toy at this point, wheras Microsoft represents corporate greed at its finest.
Have you ever heard of the “Dunning-Krueger” effect? Check into that and reevaluate how much understanding of this subject you actually have.
 
Oh yes, I don’t claim to be a computer engineer or anything like that.
Then don't act like you know more than actual security experts.

Feel free to refute them since you’re apprently ‘in the know’.
I would, if I had the time and were your personal teacher, but I am not.

Learn what CVEs fully are, and perhaps we can then have a civilized conversation. And no, I'm not talking about reading for 30 minutes on Reddit and forums. Get a degree on security and then go learn how CVEs are even reported in the first place.

It's hard to have a conversation with someone who doesn't know about the topic they're trying to talk about.

And yes, I'd consider myself 'in the know'. I have done security 'stuff' that I can't even talk about since they're under extremely strict NDAs.
 
This is one of the most retarded posts I've seen on BHW for quite some time.

Peronsally I think what’s retarded is the continous yet impossible attempt of major distros to try to get every third party packages to confrom to their specific configuration management tools and patches seem. Especially when even some of your core OS elements themselves don’t even conform to them either. And good luck with the kitchen sink approach to fixing things when they inevitably break as you keep trying to fit a square peg in a round hole.
 
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Then don't act like you know more than actual security experts.


I would, if I had the time and were your personal teacher, but I am not.

Learn what CVEs fully are, and perhaps we can then have a civilized conversation. And no, I'm not talking about reading for 30 minutes on Reddit and forums. Get a degree on security and then go learn how CVEs are even reported in the first place.

It's hard to have a conversation with someone who doesn't know about the topic they're trying to talk about.

And yes, I'd consider myself 'in the know'. I have done security 'stuff' that I can't even talk about since they're under extremely strict NDAs.

OK, then just continue throwing blanket statements then bro. No skin of my nose either.

Of course on the internet everyone is a billionaire playboy and worlds strongest street fighting god with a degree in quantum physics. Of course their mere demanour alone will tell you all this. They don’t have to prove anything when they come marching in on their high horse ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
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Have you ever heard of the “Dunning-Krueger” effect? Check into that and reevaluate how much understanding of this subject you actually have.

No what is that? Sounds like a word narcissists throw around at people when they’re trying smell their own farts better
 
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