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LinkPushing.net and the Notice of Detected Unnatural Links

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by charlesbrunkle, Apr 19, 2012.

  1. charlesbrunkle

    charlesbrunkle Registered Member

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    Hi Guys,

    I'm in a bit of situation, I have 2 sites for which I only did link building using LinkPushing.net and got the "Notice of Detected Unnatural Links" for both of them.

    I know it is probably my fault for not doing anything else to diversify my link profile and only used LinkPushing.net services, but I was lazy and it was working.

    It has been almost 2 months now and the sites are still in page 2 or gone for all its keywords, so I'm thinking of doing a reconsideration. I emailed Greg from LinkPushing.net and asked him kindly if he could remove all my links from his private network (I know it is near impossible to remove the links from the WEB 2.0 properties and the article directories, but the links on his private network should be fairly easy to remove) he told me "we don't remove the links that are set up in our system".

    I don't want to snitch and give Google my reports from LinkPushing.net because I know that even if I do Google won't remove the penalty and it will only get all those site de-indexed, which is not going to help anyone.

    What can I do? It took me more than a year to get these sites to the point where they were making me more than $1000 per month each. I can't start again.....

    Your thoughts on this will be appreciated.

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  2. codo3500

    codo3500 Regular Member

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    There are numerous threads on here about how to remove this. Basically, you don't have to remove the links to have it removed, there are other tactics like diversifying your profile.

    Let's face it - you'd have to keep building links anyway, just do it right this time using one of the strategies posted and you'll be back in no time.
     
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  3. howard_hughes

    howard_hughes Elite Member

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    I've been using LinkPushing since 3 months and its working out great for me. I'm beating official Branded sites for 40k exact keywords, with LinkPushing.

    I think your site has got into trouble for the lack Of DIVERSITY.

    If you keep only building / buying ONLY blog links, then ofcourse you will get such UnNatural link Building Scares from G.

    Mix it up, Get bookmarks, web2s, profiles, Articles and Wikis as well.
     
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  4. CloneX

    CloneX Power Member

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    Just do a lot of WH SEO for the site. Forget about the KWs and diversity and stuff. Be natural.

    Do these:

    - Guest posts
    - Genuine forum marketing
    - Traffic from social networks
    - Traffic from YT
    - Traffic from other sources via Google's URL shortened

    Do this for some time to neutralize your link profile, and then submit a reconsideration request.
     
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  5. BassTrackerBoats

    BassTrackerBoats Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    I say hundreds of times in many places, including my own blog on linkpushing.net/blog to use more than one way to backlink your sites.

    We create tens of thousands of links on a daily basis and no, it would not be easy to remove. Expecting us to dig throught all those posts because you were lazy as you say is pretty much unreasonable.

    Aside from some of the advice above take a look at what Extrawinner teaches here like I told you via email:

    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackh...-notice-detected-unnatural-links-website.html
     
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    I agree with Link Diversity , but isn't link push built on link diversity , its not only private blog , i think it covers a few types of links .
     
  7. CloneX

    CloneX Power Member

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    Oh.. yeah.. that's actually a nice point.. Would like to see what BassTracketBoats has to say. (No hard feelings to anyone) :D
     
  8. drogon

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    It could also be targeting the same keywords with every push.

    Some times you just want to use your site URL or long tail keywords to mix it up and not just your main keyword.
     
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  9. BassTrackerBoats

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    A super point - not unlike what I wrote on my blog:

    [h=2]Proper Anchor Text for Best SEO is not always using anchor text.[/h] Strange as that may sound you do not want to add anchor text to all your backlinks as you are building your backlink infrastructure. "Naked" backlinks look very natural and pass along link juice to your sites so it would make sense to add them into your SEO strategy. To go onto a site and see http://linkpushing.net is something that you would... READ MORE

    Strange as it is... that article ranks #7 in Google for Proper Anchor Text with only linkpushes to it... no Google penalty, no Google webmasters email... nothing of the sort.
     
  10. ILoveCSharp

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    Well i am not using any paid service because of this reason. Google is going against paid services and they are doing to right thing.

    It is best to buy tools and do your job yourself.
     
  11. audioguy

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  12. BassTrackerBoats

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    Then why do my sites rank for thousands of keywords and make me over 17K a month consistently?

    I pretty much only use linkpushing.net and other paid services to backlink them... I never use the tools I own to make my own backlinks.
     
  13. goinviral

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    The best thread on BHW talking about diversifying links was written by winchester

    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo/424148-guide-dealing-over-optimization-sky-isnt-falling.html

    However if you want a simple pictorial on diversification go here

    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/black-hat-seo/423256-guide-link-diversification-panda-3-4-d.html
     
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  14. ezlegion

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    charlesbrunkie,
    I do feel for you and everyone gets a kick in the teeth - only way to learn, anyways patronising over.

    and @ topdost - You are right linkpushing does offer diversity but you cannot rely on one service/type of links, Greg himself (and plenty others) have stated that you should not rely on 1 service/type of links only - if you do it is only a matter of time before you get slapped.

    Linkpushing works and it keeps improving BUT you have to, need to and should mix things up, from anchor text to adding other types of links. We keep hearing diversity this and diversity that but it is the key and it's so easy to lose sight of trying to keep things natural when you're on a roll.

    Anyways I wish you best of luck from now on and and just keep building those diverse links.

    I often ask people how they use google (and other engines) and still get surprised as to their online behaviour and use this info, I mean what better way to recreate natural link building than to actually talk to someone who's not into seo?
    :)

    @ audioguy, great link EW definitely knows his stuff

    Oh yea and 1 other thing, I would not give google any proof at all of the link building you've done (whether from linkpushing or not) as by doing this you're admitting that you are doing unnatural stuff and heaven knows what they'll do to your site then. Stay under the radar as much as poss :)
     
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  15. Zellandia

    Zellandia Newbie

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    Hi, don't do reconsideration or you kill link pushingnetwork.I'm pretty sure google will manually scan all your backlink profile. Well, if i'm in your situation i just neutralized your link source. Slow down link pushing and add some video link,bookmark, doc link, profile, wiki, blog comment,social media, forum post, etc as much as possible.Don't forget to Vary your anchor text.
     
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  16. howard_hughes

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    To summ up everything

    - You need links from different platforms (blogs,wikis,bookmarks,profiles,comments,articles,bla bla)
    - You need links with different anchors (all diff kinds including ones like click here, website)
    - you need to backlink internal pages as well.

    If you keep building only blog links, with the same 1 or 2 kws and point them to the same main page, then you're gonna get punished.
     
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  17. jstover77

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    Being lazy and being successful are mutually exclusive.

    One thing not to do is file a reconsideration request. That is like stealing money from your bank and then telling them you did it.

    Things to do that will help:

    - add social factors to your site (FB, Twitter, Google +). Don't just add them to add them. If you post a new article, Tweet it, add it on FB, share it on Google Plus. Add Google Plus authorship tags on your pages. There are a bunch of tutorial on how to do this.
    - add a contact us page with address and phone (even if fake). Then throw some local citations to it.
    - try to add fresh content at least once a week.
    - diversify your anchor text with generic terms, brand terms, naked urls, website.com, synonyms etc.
    - quality relevant links. Reverse engineer your competitors with tools like Link Detective and ibacklinkpro. Link to their sites.


    The whole point is you want Google to trust your website.
     
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  18. charlesbrunkle

    charlesbrunkle Registered Member

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    Hi All,

    Thanks for your advice.

    I was using brand, url, keyword variations, etc. but it is true that I only used LinkPushing.net and my back link profile ain't pretty as a result of it.

    These sites were long terms projects, so I'm going to take CloneX's advice and do WH SEO for them. Once they are back I may do a bit BH SEO here and there, but never a good idea to only use automated link building services if you expect the website to rank for long.

    Cheers
     
  19. BassTrackerBoats

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    I fixed that for you, Charles.
     
  20. charlesbrunkle

    charlesbrunkle Registered Member

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    Thanks for that, I was wondering when the trolling would start. Excellent customer service skills.

    To everybody, thanks for taking the time give some advice, I will follow your recommendations.