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link devaluation due to "advertisement" tag?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by aussiejack, Dec 7, 2015.

  1. aussiejack

    aussiejack Regular Member

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    I am about to buy a couple of articles on real blogs / news sites with folllow-links. Those links are quite expensive so I want to make sure that I get the best bang for my bug.

    On most of those sites the articles are labelled as "sponsored" or "advertised".

    It looks like that in the source code

    Code:
    class="widget-wrap"><li
    id="execphp-357340864" class="widget widget_execphp"><h3 class="widgettitle">[B]advertisement[/B]</h3><div
    class="execphpwidget"><script type="text/javascript">
    Does google read that "advertisement tag" and devaluates the link because it was purchased and not naturally grown?

    I know that google claims that purchased links don't count or don't count that much. I am specifically interested if google actually devaluates a link based on the tag above.
     
  2. aussiejack

    aussiejack Regular Member

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    any ideas blackhatters?
     
  3. SkyrocketSEO

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    Is your link supposed to be within that code...?
     
  4. aussiejack

    aussiejack Regular Member

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    no it is outside
     
  5. aussiejack

    aussiejack Regular Member

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    anybody has an idea here?

    my thoughts are this: Google wants purchased links to be nofollow. As long as they are follow they have power and the "advertisement tag" does make any difference. Essentially it is just a h3-tag with the word "advertisement" in it. It cannot really matter. But thats just speculation
     
  6. archon10

    archon10 BANNED BANNED

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    If you get reviewed by a Google web spam member and your site is penalized, you'll need to ask for something like this to be nofollowed. It's one of the more obvious "I bought this link" links. A few of these won't matter. It's when you buy tons of links and then get hit with manual action that this will matter. I can 100% tell you that links like this must be removed (or disavowed if you can't get it removed) with a penalty.
     
  7. aussiejack

    aussiejack Regular Member

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    thanks for your experience. I am still a bit surprised that these links would be so problematic in a manual review. I am talking about real blogs / news sites here with articles actually being read, so no obvious "SEO article". Does that change the game?
     
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    archon10 BANNED BANNED

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    The basic rule of thumb is that if it looks purchased or put there by the site owner, then it's a problem. Like I said, a few of these won't matter. If your link profile is natural and then you have a few of these in there, you're fine. But, if you've been buying links and your link profile is completely fabricated, then yeah, these links are in the group that will have to be removed. This is also where negative SEO plays a part in what site owners think is a successful campaign. They are buying links and their link profile is completely unnatural, but then someone performs negative SEO and the spam links bring light to what the site owner has been doing and flying under the radar. Site owner gets a penalty and blames negative SEO instead of owning up to doing his own shady stuff.

    One of the biggest groups that got hit during the initial Penguin release was mommy bloggers. They are infamous for putting sponsored links (tons of them!) on their blogs.
     
  9. aussiejack

    aussiejack Regular Member

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    I get that and it makes sense not to have too many of those links. But lets get back to my initial question: Do I get full link juice for with this "advertisement tag" or not? Not talking about some manual actions here but does the google algo somehow read "Wait, this tag says it is advertisement so we devalue the link"?
     
  10. LuckyCharm007

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    Why wouldn't you get the full juice of it if it's a do-follow?
     
  11. archon10

    archon10 BANNED BANNED

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    Yes, you do. That's why it has to be removed if there is a link penalty. The page is passing PR.
     
  12. googlemonster

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    Only way to tell would be to test, Google and their magic phd engineers need to code something that could stop manipulation, so they may code something like this. Test it with some obscure keyword and see if your site ranks. Maybe these scripts they run are running when their indexes update, how knows tbh, how long does it take for a full index update? I remember working at one place and it took one month, although that was shite technology you get an idea.

    I have tested comments on articles and sure enough seemed to be that they look at that as 'another signal'. They try to act like its rocket science but its often stuff you only find on sites that take the extra effort. For example DR credentials next to the author etc. TOS, privacy, address data, yada yada...this is how you program all those signals, into algorithms like Panda. Penguin is just an updated link analysis that they have had for years. Other tweaks and fucking about they say they do are weighting alterations to value x, y and z. They have been fucking about with the algorithm and algorithms for years, they will either never be happy, constantly bullshit webmasters or a mix of all of them. If they didn't have so much traffic and be the tier one to all methods of finding web content, they'd be fucked. It's only because people have imperfect knowledge.

    In a perfect knowledge society we wouldn't even need a 'search engine'. A 'search engine' actually seems old school, but it generates so much traffic that's the issue. 'Just Google it!" Fuck off!

    There are only 10 links on page one, yet they need all this technology to make it look 'legit'. You'd be better hand coding it ffs, makes me laugh.
     
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