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Let's REALLY talk about Foot prints - Money sites and Private Blog Networks.

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by anderson313, Apr 30, 2013.

  1. anderson313

    anderson313 Newbie

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    Scenario: 100 + Lead gen sites (that I own, not client) most of them in Gmaps/local/Plus/whatever they call it with a fake address or an address where my client is not listed.

    So, as far as money sites what would you do and how far would you go to have any type of footprint:

    MONEY SITES:

    1) Unique content is a no brainer...working on getting that cleaned up so it isn't even close to being spun.
    2) Blocking plugins folder so G cannot see same set of plugins on all my sites
    3) Images used have been just googled off of google images and bing images (normally from other countries to avoid copyright) - block images, or go 100% stock photography--by just blending in
    4) spread out across 7-8 shared hosting? Should these go to class C/class B ip hosting accounts WITH PRIVATE NAMESERVERS (blog network blueprint course) covers this
    5) privatewhois - but we know google is a registrar. Should I, over time, change to fakewhois info and use pre-paid credit cards?
    6) Similar images I've created "call now with phone #'s on the sites---footprints, no index, re-size, change to jpg?"
    7) To be overkill what else should I block, change, hide, fix up/ change, no index? Does it hurt to noindex images?

    A) Would doing all of this SEEM suspicious and therefore create it's own footprint? Like, only SEO people use class C/B so it has to be someone gaming the system.
    B) what priority would you do it in above? I know content is the easiest footprint so doing that first, even though the sites rank well you can google phrases and see other sites that pull up, so that is an easy footprint.

    Long story short, 100k income a year (I realize that is nothing to most people so please don't take that as bragging--long way to go:) and I don't want to jeopardize it. I'd rather be OVER cautious and spend the money so I can sleep extremely well at night.

    Blog network: All of the above applies, what else would you add to it?

    Am I missing anything elsewhere?

    TIA
     
  2. sire243

    sire243 Regular Member

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    Scripteen Elite Member

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    Do web 2.0 network instead and minimize the risks.
     
  4. anderson313

    anderson313 Newbie

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    Yeah, definitely going to do web 2.0 this is also for money sites. Thanks for the advice so far.
     
  5. hellnation

    hellnation Regular Member

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    most of this sounds completely over the top.

    and I'm not sure I follow with the class B/C hosting? Just get some SSL certs, they will have to give you a unique IP. (not shared)

    And of course, having your own nameservers could be a major footprint... they could just lookup your DNS info and find all your domains.

    If you can't sleep at night, its because your income streams are not diversified enough, I'd focus on that.
     
  6. anderson313

    anderson313 Newbie

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    Thanks for all the advice. I've only been in SEO about 12 months or so--so I feel I am behind on the technical aspects. Hellnation when meant private nameserver....I meant that each site would have its own private name server. like ns1 mywebsite ns2 my website then n1s another website ns1 another website.....in the Easy Blog Blueprint course they cover the benefits of this, so perhaps I misunderstood or they are BSing...

    Great to know on SSL and unique IP addresss.
     
  7. hellnation

    hellnation Regular Member

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    Yes, when you put it this way it does make a lot of sense.

    Actually, this is a good idea as this will keep your records completely out of reach. And there are companies that specialize in DNS solutions, I'd be curious what they can do.
     
  8. betam4x

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    Things I've determined:

    - Google watches your google account. if you screw up and get sandboxed or delisted, it can affect every website on your account.

    - To a lesser extent. I've noticed that google will use some type of fingerprint (ip + browser user agent?) I've had websites automatically sandboxed on other accounts, and to this day i haven't been able to dig them out. Damn sand...

    - Artificially submitting a website to google raises flags. Submitting a sitemap, etc. will flag your website. You may will not get sandboxed or rejected (for the first time), most don't, but you are being watched. If you link spam too soon or get a complaint, you will be instantly sand-boxed or removed. If you play by the rules, this won't be an issue.

    - I've never had issues with SSL, server side unique IPs, etc. I have 2 low traffic whitehat sites on the same IP as several blackhat ones, 2 of which got sandboxed, and it hasn't gotten kicked so far. server side IP addresses are far less likely to matter, since shared hosts may host hundreds of websites per ip address.

    - if you are earning 100k/year from SEO, you are doing fine. Don't listen to people who claim to be making more. Focus on what you are doing, don't be stupid, and you'll be fine.
     
  9. twilightofidols

    twilightofidols Power Member

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    Finally someone gets it! Dude you are doing it right.

    Don't stop there, change permalinks structure as well and anything else you can brainstorm. This is not overkill, it's not far enough. It's called taking precautions for the future. Always err on the side of obsessive paranoia when it comes to Google's potential future actions. Your current income is higher than 99.5% of this board and proves you know what you're doing.
     
  10. mogaz

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    here a great post.. got real informative stuff. thanks everyone for sharing your knowledge and expertise. its interesting to read more about IP addresses and SSL.