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Lets find out which Back Link Service or SEO service got hit by Penguin 2.1

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by thestupid, Oct 8, 2013.

  1. thestupid

    thestupid Newbie

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    I took three seo service so far: Aurarank, GhostRank and Sherlock Hacks google. My site were the number 1 on google. now its no where. So i really dont know which service affected my ranking.

    Did penguin 2.1 affect your rankings too? If so which seo/link building service you purchased earlier?

    after getting your opinion we might come to a conclusion.

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  2. Duffers5000

    Duffers5000 Elite Member

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    Why are you buying blackhat link services when you are number 1 in google already ?

    And these threads about how to sort out penguin 2.1 while the roll out is still going on are a waste of time.
     
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  3. thestupid

    thestupid Newbie

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    I guess i went super greedy. now paying the price.

     
  4. cesarian

    cesarian Power Member

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    I do agree it's better to wait until penguin 2.1 completely rolled out, but hey in my opinion all three can contribute to your ranking. Penguin 2.1 may target the SAPE-types links but also links from spunned content or thin content and even "whitehat" links if Google does not see it as whitehat.
     
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  5. SkyrocketSEO

    SkyrocketSEO Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    I am sure he is not coming back to No.1 or anywhere close
     
  6. divineasset

    divineasset Newbie

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    When things settle we will all see clearer. Just give it one more week
     
  7. Peter Ngo

    Peter Ngo Jr. VIP Jr. VIP

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    number 1 but still buy BH links? did you buy 3 of them for a 1st position kw? doesn't really sound legit to me.
     
  8. cesarian

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    Well you are probably right if you only count the update but he still can try to recover by reconsideration request. I know it works as it did with my site, it takes a lot of work and time but it worked.
     
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    It's not that simple, you can't just blame a service alone if you got hit.
     
  10. thestupid

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    Guys, thanks for your kind replies. I will keep you updated if i can do anything about it.

    It was a good lesson :)
     
  11. moorish

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    Maybe bad english but imo its obvious he meant he bought the 3 services then got rank 1 then no more ranks after the update........
     
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  12. ficfroc

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    Honestly it's almost impossible to judge (negatively at least) a service . Because first, you need to have bought only one server + Not ever having done any seo on your own to the site ( yeah sometimes you are the one who screw your site).
     
  13. danailo

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    Anyway you learned a lesson. Don't try a bunch of stuff at once.
     
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  14. Peter Ngo

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    Oh my bad, well, i bought some of marrrko service, some kw from nowhere now jump to page 3-4, stiill too soon to say anything though.
     
  15. steelballs

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    OP with respect hoisting up the names of some BH services then coming to the conclusion that the said services were the reason a site got shafted...

    Where I think the problem lies in, what were you thinking about using BH services in the first place you make mention to "super greedy!"...

    Thanks for the honesty, great in acting as a warning to all newcomers and inexperienced IMers...

    Never buy any services until you have analyzed the down stream dangers that may surface in using services that have been bought on instinct - greed will rape and empty any bank balance...
     
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  16. envisionary

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    For those out there that may not know...and no bad vibes to this poster.
    Penguin is an Algo penalty and a reconsideration request is not possible.
    Algo penalty requires you to please the algo.
    Manual penalty requires you to please the G00gle police.

     
  17. thestupid

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    do you think disvow all the bad backlinks might help?
     
  18. cesarian

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    The algo also consider "bad link" and if they are removed which is needed for reconsideration request then algo will also detects that. I means how did Google knows about those backlinks, it's because they detected bad links using the algo. Also I believe "Google police" as you said it, can influence, if a site is marked as good authority site and someone bombed it with a lot of bad links, do you think Google will the algo penalized it just like that without some research? I know it's not logical if someone bombed bad links to cnn.com and Google penalized it. So I believe no matter if it's manual actions or algo actions, reconsideration will help if you do it right.

    Not if you only do that, as I mention you need to remove bad links and at least showed the effort to. Disavow only lets Google know that they shouldn't consider the backlinks you submitted to have effect to your site but as you are already penalized, the penalized effect itself is not removed. I know this from experience.
     
  19. gorang

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    This thread is bullshit. I can see the logic in what you're saying and it is good.

    However, I have sites that had no linkbuilding done to them for the past 6 months and they are hit by the recent Google update. So even if I used a service in the past month, the fact that Google penalized sites with no linkbuilding in past 6 months shows that I can not specifically pinpoint the service as the cause.

    This thread will just further confuse us.

    The only way you could possibly pinpoint a service is if the have a domain that have no other links pointed at it than the service in question. Even then, you can't 100% pinpoint it.
     
  20. deangregor

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    Penguin 2.1 or Google hummingbird?