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Legal Notice: Improper Use of domain name

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by glhawkins, Apr 14, 2010.

  1. glhawkins

    glhawkins Newbie

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    So today I received an email stating:

    and then they attached a PDF doc stating:

    What do you guys think? It makes me curious because nothing is capitalized correctly like the city/state and his name at the end when it is typed. Is this for real? I need some advice quick. Thanks.
     
  2. tdecker81

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    Looks fake

    Check out the lawyers profile http://lawyers.justia.com/lawyer/daniel-van-woerkom-990282#overview

    The address and phone number are different than the complaint and the e-mail address on the website referenced in the letter is a gmail account. What lawyer uses a gmail account if they have a domain registered?
     
  3. jodys

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    Doesn't look fake to me. Looks like a form letter to me where 90% of it was created in CA where the sport's agent resides and they shop for an Attorney in your jurisdiction and assign it to him. They copy and pasted his information from his website which is all lowercase. I suspect if you ignore this, you'll be sued by this law firm in short order.

    Let me guess, you reside or used a Utah address for domain registration... You have domain privacy enabled, how do you think they found you? Sounds to me like they've already been to Court and got an order for the registrar to release your information so why do you think they'll stop there? That agent address checks out and so does the law firm in your jurisdiction. I guess if you're still not convinced then pick up the phone and call them. Looks legit to me.
     
  4. glhawkins

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    What I didn't mention is that I'm personal friends with Ryan Mathews, but never told him that I had created this website. You think if I just call him I can settle things with him and then call the firm? You think I should call the Utah number or the one from California?
     
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    And you need to ask it? C'mon call him and let him help you sort things out!
    This is umbelievable.
     
  6. pasdoy

    pasdoy Power Member

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    then why dont you just call your "friend"?
     
  7. shelle

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    I'd be really suspicious of that... it totally looks fake to me.
     
  8. PlatinumPi4u

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    Every attorney has a BAR number... Look them up.
     
  9. taberdude2

    taberdude2 Junior Member

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    Did you Google the attorneys name? I just did and found this link :
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    http://www.nflplayers.com/reports/AgentSearch.aspx?report=2&city=

    Sorry kinda look legit to me.
     
  10. hitman247

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    You get a letter from your friend's attorney about a website you created and then you come to a public forum for advice when you have the means to call your friend?

    You aren't by any chance an elected official are you?

    (Please refer to my signature)
     
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  11. Smoking

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    :D:D I think they maybe but what is worse who VOTED for them :rolleyes:
     
  12. JohnG

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    I would be really suspicous, I doubt a real attorney would contact you and demand you transfer the domain to an @aol.com address. I would search the attorney by his name in google and contact his office directly, and then just tell them you got a letter claiming to be from them and wanted to verify its authenticity. Just give them your name only, or the name the letter was sent to, dont show them the letter, would just give them something to sue you for.
     
  13. warriorpoet

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    It is not proper service. More likely is a domain 'grifter'. i would ignore all until at some point it appeared legal service (i.e. certified w/return receipt) was being attempted (ideally you will not meet the mailman at your open door and say yes i am he or refuse to sign etc as it is the same as service (avoidance of service) but otherwise a well crafted letter i suspect.. and prefunctory at best.

    why sweat anything that is at it's current phase meaningless. you might alo add on a footer (in small faded print ;) in honor of 'my friend' etc..not an official website or endorsed or un-official fan site (allowed) blah blah blah ;) the only real issue is whose photos you're using on the site. Not likely all his I mean..so your conern will be only this really..make a montage of photos to throw even more legal sophistry into the mix ;)
     
  14. Rinde

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    I googled his name and found this...

    http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=ut&vol=supopin&invol=patter032103

    if anything he should have left you a number to call, look up his number and give him a call to verify it...


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  15. PlatinumPi4u

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    Also, I have been served before (ebay) and they didn't ask for a transfer... :)
     
  16. xXxXx

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    Why don't you go and buy a couple of domains with ipad and windows7 in them?

    I bet that'll work out just fine and dandy.

    When a lawyer sends you a letter, just ignore it man, it's probably fake. :rolleyes:
     
  17. glhawkins

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    Alright, I just got back from work. Well, I bought the domain name when he was still in college and I was updating the website until he got injured in the middle of the season. On what basis do these people have trying to confiscate a domain name before he was even being represented (or made it to the NFL). They're basically claiming that he has been trademarked and going for his "domain name" when in all reality it is only an arbitrary name and can refer to any "ryan mathews" in the world.

    I was looking at the email address too. It really makes you wonder because it looks like a "spammer" type email address.

    What do you mean by it's not even in a "current phase meaningless"? What do you consider something being in a more 'meaningless' stage, or a stage where I should start being worried?

    I don't reside and didn't use a Utah address for domain registration. I have used my home and current residing address in California for all my domain name registrations, and I didn't register it as a private domain name.
     
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  18. warriorpoet

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    I thought i made it clear. You have no reason to even get worried until something of seeming consequence happens (i.e. attempted service!) the letter is bogus for worry. and yes u are right about anyone using it..EXCEPT as you are with hi images and about him..hence the UN-Official Fan club/site ;) I would lift a finger or do anything until they showed me attempt for legal service IS my point...sound fishy to boot. good luck! ;)
     
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    if you're not using the site to promote this nfl player then i dont think they have any right, i'm sure there is more then one ryan mathews in the world so who is he to demand the domain name?
     
  20. ForeverNever

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    Seriously I totally agree.

    I'm not an expert in law or anything but I'm pretty sure just because a celebrity has a (common) name that does not give him exclusive rights to the domain name.

    Even if it's real you should fight that shit. It's ridiculous that they think he is the only Ryan Matthews that has rights to that name.