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kw with 5,000,000 searches and low competition?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by deepsal, May 10, 2013.

  1. deepsal

    deepsal Registered Member

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    don't know if this is the right forum but here it goes
    its my first day doing some research on how to be an im have been reading random threads for a while now

    a few minutes back i searched for a kw on google keyword tool it had 5000000 exact monthly searches and the related kw had between 40-100k searches and in almost all of them it showed the competition as low,which is making me confused is it real...am i doing something wrong?
    i am attaching some pics for you guys to see

    and on a side note i dont have any money on me right now
    is it ok if i use the youtube + cpa with a blogspot site do free blogspot sites rank less,and if they can be ranked using seo

    thanks :)
    please dont flame on me i am new
     

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  2. systematic

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    As long as you selected [exact] and not broad, you're not doing anything wrong. Some words have a lot of searches. Though 5,000,000 is pretty high, it does happen, especially if you're doing a kw search on an established brand name like yahoo, bing, etc. or a very common word such as tv, car, etc.

    [sex] pulls in 24,000,000 global searches.
     
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  3. davids355

    davids355 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    Also if competition is low in the adwords tool, it means theres not many advertisers right? so not necessarily much money to be made.

    I guess to really check the competition that you are talking about, you need to look at the top ten results for the keyword, and see how many backlinks they have and so on.
     
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  4. deepsal

    deepsal Registered Member

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    i did select "only show ideas closely related to my search items"

    what made me doubt the accuracy of the results where the kw on which i got 5000000 searches had specific forums dedicated on it and sites were selling items related on it so a low competition is out of the question

    i did another search on "sex" with the related box ticked and here's what i got,once again the competition was low
     

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    maybe its a word that is too vague. like "jaguar"... the car brand? the animal? the football team?

    competition = PPC competition which only indicates if the competition for appearing in the paid results is high or not..
     
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  6. deepsal

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    the word i got 5000000 results was "bodybuilding" its a multi billion $ industry
    also can you please tell me how many backlinks a page has?
     
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    low advertiser competition is something else as real competition!

    plus a small keyword with 10 people doing heavy seo can be harder than a big keyword with no one doing seo...
     
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    it will be hard to rank on such kw probable, once you start checking what are the top positions and using ahrefs or similar service for backlink profile you would see that it would be huge investment of time, energy and money to get in top 10. Competition on adwords doesn't mean much.
     
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    The competition is low because there are few advertisers for those terms as it shows the advertising competition not the actual SERP competition.
     
  10. systematic

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    Just wanted to echo what everyone is saying, competition on adwords doesn't mean much in terms of SEO. For example, [facebook] gets over 250,000,000 searches/month and has low competition, but forget about trying to rank for it. You need to identify the major players and do more comprehensive analysis. Chances are an extremely competitive niche like bodybuilding is going to be very difficult, though not impossible to rank for without a major investment.

    Also, in your search for sex, you still have the broad box checked. That's why you're getting a shitload of results. You need to uncheck that and check the box below that says [exact].
     
  11. Cad01

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    Hi,
    In your last screenshot i see that you selected "Broad" in Match Types, to get the real number of searches for your keyword you have to select only "Exact".
     
  12. deepsal

    deepsal Registered Member

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    is there any way to know about the serp competition? :)
     
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    when your searching for "sex" you have the broad tickbox checked, this will show the results for everything that mentions "sex". you need to tick "exact" to get just the singular term "sex".

    same for the other keyword you were searching for.

    Also, a term like "bodybuilding" is probably low competition because its not a buying keyword, the same as "sex".

    I would imagine anyone searching bodybuilding is looking for guides and so on and wont be a buyer, hence why competition is low - not many advertisers, which proves that theres not much money to be made (not enough to make it worth anyones while paying PPC to get traffic for that term).

    Other keywords in that niche like bodybuilding supplements, bodybuilding equipment, buy bodybuilding equipment, and so on, probably have much lower traffic, but will have much higher competition and will be much more profitable because they are buying keywords.
     
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    davids355 Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    To find out about the real compeition - ie what you are competing against, you should get a tool like market samurai, or there are lots of others.
    Also a service like ahrefs will show you how many backlinks each site has.

    If you want to do it for free, search for the term, then note down the top 5 sites.

    With those sites, just gather as much information about them as you can - age of the domains (use whois), size of the domains - use site:domain.com in google, backlinks - use free ahrefs account will give you a rough idea, pagerank (use google toolbar).

    based on the above, you will get an idea of how much work the ranking sites have done to get where they are, and thus roughly how much work you might have to do to your site to get above them.
     
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    Use google to search your term then check the backlink profile of the top 10 results using ahref or any other service that give you an estimate about the competition and also show you a way to rank your KWs.
     
  16. deepsal

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    thanks a lot for pointing that out i selected exact and unticked broad and the result went down from 5000000 to 823000
    its high on kw's like bodybuilding supplements with 12000 searches
    and low on kw's like bodybuilding diet with 18000 searches
     
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    use spyfu.com it will tell you every thing about a keyword .
     
  18. toptoptop

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    Yes there is a way and it is so simple!
    Type that keyword in G and look how many results it shows and what are the TOP10 pages are they strong etc.

    I don't think that there is any "big" (big search volume) keyword where no one or even 10 people are doing SEO. In any niche where there is any search volume there already are lots of people doing seo.
     
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  19. deepsal

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    i read this after posting my last post
    you are right about the thing you said about bodybuilding supplements it has low searches but high competition

    in order to make money i should target niches where the backlinks of the top sites are low and the sites should be offering something to sell right?
     
  20. davids355

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    You really need to target terms that have medium to high competition on the adwords tool, but low competition in terms of competing websites - terms with those characteristics are your golden nuggets.

    You also get software such as Keyword Scout that are designed to find those keywords for you.

    Keyword scount link:
    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/buy-sell-trade/359097-100-off-keyword-scout-finest-keyword-research-tool-amazon-scraper-addons-more.html


    Also, as I said, even better are the real buying keywords that you can find, where you know the searches are actually looking to spend money.