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Kindle publishing convert paperback to ebook and sell

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by tytytucke, Aug 25, 2016.

  1. tytytucke

    tytytucke Newbie

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    Kindle publishing is a hot market and amazon is selling more ebooks than printed books.
    Would you get away with converting paper books into ebooks and selling them on amazon or possibly another site?

    A lot of amazon printed books don't have an ebook version, but the publisher would likely get it taken down. But what about the hundreds of books that aren't on amazon yet or the older books you might get away with. convert, sell, profit?

    I'm sure there are books out there that are even plagiarized with different titles and covers or even re-written someone's book that sell well.
    I don't know much about this and was wondering if anyone has tried any of these methods?
     
  2. AceWallGromit

    AceWallGromit Regular Member

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    Not a good long term income strategy. You will burn your bridges before you even get to them with schemes like this.
     
  3. manolo12399

    manolo12399 Senior Member

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    may be offer to the publisher of printed a book to create a kindle ebook version for them
     
  4. GringoMonkey

    GringoMonkey Power Member

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    Amazon holds your money for 60 days,they spend that time working out how to get out of paying it to you. You would have just given them an excuse.

    You will probably be able to sell some but then they will get flagged, Amazon will then hold the money and terminate your account.
     
  5. Talyn

    Talyn Junior Member

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    Even with that method, it will be a really hard work to find published books in paperback/hardcover book format and not published in kindle format by crawling manualy amazon website.
    Even if there are a few, most of these books belongs to huge publishing companies.

    It needs a huge twist It think...
     
  6. blackpenny

    blackpenny Junior Member

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    As others already stated, I guess you would not get any money and find your account terminated sooner or later.
     
  7. tytytucke

    tytytucke Newbie

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    There are already web services that convert books into audiobooks that is promoted by amazon (http://www.acx.com/) and Amazon has "Kindle convert" which basically takes scanned pictures of a book and puts those pictures of a page into a ebook format. Kindle direct publishing converts printed books into ebooks for sale in kindle format for free, and there after amazon takes their royalties every time a book is sold. These resources are found on amazon and I would guess they encourage the sellers to use their services.

    Yet, still I have found a lot of books with out kindle versions and audio versions on the amazon market place, that's what leads me to believe there is still opportunity here.

    From my understanding it is a strategy for more sales. They sell Marked up hardcover version and maybe a paperback, receive an established amount of reviews and when the sales fade enough, they release a kindle/ebook version. This allows them to stay competitive by relying on their reviews not having to price match their competition. Instead they keep a decently higher priced kindle book that can also capture a new audience, repeat sales through hardcore fans for an electronic version and they gain more attention = sales through amazon ranking.

    That is not the case for every book. I believe the age of the book vs sales margin is not worth it for the less popular or cheaper books. Some Authors still only believe in printed books and not electronic versions of their precious book. Maybe some big publisher don't pay enough attention to other alternatives on their smaller books. or something else.

    I believe it would be very time consuming to pick your ideal book to select and covert, then contacting the author directly (not the publisher, as I would be a publisher), trying to make a deal but having them turn you down after all that work finding that good candidate. Perhaps a better route would be to find all books selling decently on the store and to mass message them a scripted well written message written by me asking them if they would like to invest in an opportunity for me to convert their book(s) to make them more sales. Because when you are selling, you don't want them to consider their other options in front of them (maybe they don't know about other services or you could just sell them yours). You want to convince them you are giving them good value for both parties to make money and they are making the right decision and boom a sale, 1 in maybe 60 attempts. That is pure speculation. It does looks tough, but the profit margins could be great for ebooks.

    So making money converting printed books to audio books, and ebooks could be possible. It looks like a better option would be translating books to another language. Amazon has very limited resources and links for translating services. There are tons of books that could be translated that aren't yet and authors don't know how to get it done. But translating needs to be done perfectly by a proven translator. If I could find a good translator and make some deals happen, this would be easy to scale up. What I would be worried about is the need for a lawyer or contract for services, rights, time table, quality, and collecting agreed payments. Enforcing guidelines could be troublesome.

    The publishing rights for a book could be bought if not too expensive. Maybe just the rights to convert or translate. But If I'm looking to get started down that path I could look into using cheaper or free usage rights books to publish or re-publish just to get a feel on the process. I see there is a website that offers a directory of books to choose from http://www.plrebookclub.com/ The site looks like a get rich quick website, but I'll be looking into sites like this. It looks like a legal way to plagiaries a book and sell it. I'm shocked there isn't a bunch of threads about private label rights (PLR) for a book on the BHW forum. I know a lot people aren't interested in books, but these methods look like interesting opportunities to make some money.
     
  8. CameronLove

    CameronLove Newbie

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    Personally, rather than rip off writers who have copyright claims, why not just advertise you are buying quality short stories (10-30 pages long) about a particular genre for $10. Then blast that advert around the internet. Writers groups, writers forums, Fan sites, etc, are all good places to find good writers who never see a cent or even think to publish a short bit of fan fiction.

    There are bound to be people (including people on here) that will quickly knock out a couple dozen pages of a decent story for $10. Get them to all sign a contract giving over the rights to the story in exchange for the cash. Make it clear that you may publish the story commercially at a later date and that you will credit them as the author of the story in any publishing so they receive credit. (Sell it to them that they will not only get $10, but possibly published AND a chance for people to see who wrote it and request more, which is free advertising).

    Collect 10 stories, costs you $100 paying out, and then put them all into a Horror Short Stories Volume 1 ebook and publish it at a reasonable price, just a couple of $$$ below most professional novels in that genre! Do a bit of self-marketing of the book through advertising it on book forums, book clubs, book blogs, etc. A few people pick it up, read it and tell others about it and before you know it, you have made back your money from the curious people you asked to check it out, and earning a residual income from it from everyone else, all without Amazon kicking you off.

    Then, repeat the same process, and contact all previous buyers that Volume 2 is now available.

    And if you think it sounds too easy and can't possibly work. Then let me tell you that one of the Top 100 selling books at retail last month in the UK was a collection of Sci-Fi stories by different unpublished authors, and it was selling 28,000 units a week and it happened to be Volume 2. So someone out there is making money off the back of unpublished writers and you could too! All legal, above board and you might think that paying $10 to a writer to make your millions seems a bit cheap and scammy to them, but its infinitely more moral than stealing their work and publishing it anyway like your suggesting. :)
     
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