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Kicking it Up a Notch- pumping up 50 sites developed part-time over the past decade.

Discussion in 'Making Money' started by revekozu, Nov 7, 2010.

  1. revekozu

    revekozu Junior Member

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    You see lot's of stories here following newbies plans or old pro's secrets to using a tool etc.

    I'm betting there are a lot of people like me who fiddled with all kinds of sites over the past 10-15 years and hold a hodge-podge of domains that trickle in an okay supplemental income.

    Adsense recently dropped my best paying sites and I find myself having to either put more energy into my web-projects, or cut my losses and get out of it.

    Well... web-development is just too addictive! So I'm going to push on and:


    • Keep at it steadily
    • Get more link juice for my current site collection
    • Cut costs
    • Use auto-blogging to fill out some sparse and dead sites
    • Improve monetization of sites.
    • Work efficiently, use tools, don't get sucked into unprofitable learning, programming or projects.
    Let's break that down now:

    Keep at it steadily


    • I've seen one thing remain consistent over the years. The more time I spend on my sites, the more traffic and income they produce.
    • I have more free time in the fall and winter, so now is the time.
    • When working I find it important to switch off talk radio in favor of music. Talk radio is ok for household chores, but need to shut-down verbal noise to get focused on web-land.
    • Put my story out there so I am motivated by peers. I thought about doing this on one of my IM domains, but i know I'll get more valuable feedback here.
    Get more link juice for my current site collection

    This is the most basic overall activity I'm moving to. Past link building has been limited to some paid links, semi-automated directory submissions. (I've used digiXMAS submitter for the past few years with okay results) articles using iSnare and a few Press releases, image hosting and other basic white hat stuff.


    Cut costs

    I've had a handful of sites on a particular overpriced server simply because moving them seemed like a pain. I've begun that moving process and will save about $300/ yr on hosting. I've marked a bunch of pointless domains to allow expire.

    Use auto-blogging to fill out some sparse and dead sites


    • I've taken a run at using the "Shezblog" method with wp-robot, twitterfeed and tweet attacks. Reviving some old dead sites with steady new content and traffic from twitter is one of the techniques I'm using.
    • I have a couple hundred twitter accounts that have been slowly adding followers via TA using search terms related loosely to my 50 sites and some affiliate niches I want to take a shot at on some subdomains. I need to work on getting my tweet accounts looking more natural.
    • Experimenting with SocialBacklinker Pro with/instead of twitterfeed, and need to take time to load more accounts into socialoomph.

    Improve monetization of sites.

    Going through my sites I found some with ads either buried or non-existant. I'm liking the wordpress plugin New Adman for easy ad placement.

    Work efficiently, use tools, don't get sucked into unprofitable learning, programming or projects.


    • I need to include "posting on this thread" as a possible suction on my time. The danger of more talking than doing is real!
    • I think I've bought my last money making scheme e-book for a while.
    • I've recently bought these tools:
      • The Best Spinner
      • Tweet Attacks
      • SocialBacklinker Pro
      • ScrapeBox
      • BookMarking Demon 5
      • Article Marketing Robot
      • 10 private proxies
      • And I'm scheduling xRumer type links through DripFeedBlasts
    I'll let that suffice as my intro and try to post the different things I try along with results. Most of these sites, I'm willing to try whatever shotgun approach comes along. Others I may be more conservative with. Overall I'm looking for a steady consistent "Hey we are alive and linked to..." approach that will bring traffic overall and build income.

    I know it's often suggested to build one site till it takes off and then take on another. I guess to some extent I'll be focusing on specific sites at a time, but also taking advantage of tools to keep that steady flow of link juice going to them all.
     
  2. revekozu

    revekozu Junior Member

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    After yesterdays post I put in a decent 11 hour session. Music is the key for me, Pandora.

    I just did a bunch of tedious stuff that had to be done, cleaning up tons of affiliate links.

    I started adding more twitter accounts to Socialoomph, but decided i better spread that out over a few days. After I get them all added I'll start scheduling a mix of on topic tweets and some links to the money sites.

    Indian Summer has brought a stretch of nice weather this week. This means I'll be working in the daytime at my horticultural job. But I have 5 hours now. Music on. :) I'll hit socialoomph for a while then back to finishing my affiliate touchups.

    Looking ahead, I need to come up with a plan to get cranking out links with BMD, scrapebox, AMR and dripfeedblasts (xrumer service). I guess I can use articles as one type of link buffer, but it feels like I'll need a couple hundred web 2.0 type pages for this as well. I'll study up a little on each tool, but mainly want to just get started on them all and keep that link juice coming for all my sites in a varied and random way. Once I have a decent framework and have all the link bots doing their jobs, hopefully I'll have time to focus a little on the sites themselves.

    Pretty dull huh?

    Back to work...
     
  3. UrbaneKanguru

    UrbaneKanguru Newbie

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    Hey Rev,
    I am in a similar position, interested in your story, keep the updates coming.
     
  4. revekozu

    revekozu Junior Member

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    This week tended to forestall the beginning of my off-season push, but I got a few things done and I've been back at it today. Rain tomorrow, so I should get a real full day in again tomorrow.

    I've brought home the computer that has scrapebox on it and I've been doing some high PR manual submissions with it. Letting it do it's thing scraping for whatever random keyword, check pr of pages, sort and then open the PR5-6-7s in my browser. I wait till I've written my brilliant or funny comment, then glance at my list of domains and pick a related one if possible. It's a sort of in-between thing that I suspect with time may reap the greatest benefits.

    I spent a good bit of time getting famiiar with Bookmarking Demon. Weeded through a list of additional pligg, phpdug and scuttle sites and came up with about a hundred out of a thousand that actually accepted registration. So that theoretically gives me a couple hundred bookmarking sites to play with, though i know it will be hit and miss once I start bookmarking. Plus I need to sort out the categories thing on all those new sites. At every turn I find myself thinking "Here's another thing that would be nice to have within this tool." But I resist taking time out and writing lengthy feature request emails, instead focusing on making it work. I believe with time this will become a fun and easy tool to use.

    I'm still lacking in "buffer sites" the mini sites or web 2.0 sites that feed link juice to my main 50 domains. So I suppose I will soon need to crack open the Article Marketing Robot and at least getting that going. Maybe after that I'll consider something like SENuke to create more buffer sites. I'm not going to worry about diagrams or flow charts or wheels, but do list buffer sites and certain articles in an excel chart with my 50 domains down the left and the related buffers to the right.

    So far I've only breathed life into a couple sites that were dead in the water. But I'm doing a bit of learning and organizing that already shows signs of paying off. (I am not going to say "rinse and repeat")

    In the continued spirit of cutting away the dead weight I'm going to axe a webmaster forum that has been nothing but a pain in the ass to me for years. Why fight the xrumer spammers when I can join them? :) I had this attitude that I would be helping out newcomers to the webmastering biz, but those moments were few and far between as nearly everyone, live or bot was just there for a link. So I'll convert it to a blog and hope a lame webmaster blog is more profitable than a lame webmaster forum. :)

    Look for my upcoming ebook:

    How to Work your Ass off for Ten Years and Break Even

    Actually, I've had my profitable moments over the years. Back when affiliate marketing was easy, MySpace bulletins were hot for a while, and a steady trickle of adsense revenue. But it's time to refocus and make more. I've looked at site flipping and tried throwing traffic at landing pages, but those just don't feel right to me for some reason. And it's not an ethics thing, I mean I sold a few sites for WAY more than they were worth when I was approached for them without batting an eye. It may be the simple vanity of building traffic to MY sites. And it's a fun game trying to gain traffic, serps position, and of course ad revenue and commissions.

    So once again I've set my course. Pandora is playing my jazz station and I'm back in the saddle again Yee Ha!
     
  5. sudarshannus

    sudarshannus Registered Member

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    good work mate...Looking forward to hear more from you!!
     
  6. revekozu

    revekozu Junior Member

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    Seems I no sooner had resolved to work my butt off and I became sick as heck for a couple weeks.

    Still, some progress was made. I'm seeing increases of about $30 a week overall, which at this point doesn't seem to even justify the money spent on tools. But I've been admittedly inconsistent with my efforts. I see just enough results to believe hard work will pay off.

    I built a treadmill desk just before I got sick, intending to combat the bad effects of sitting at a computer all day. (I also have developed high blood pressure and need to lose weight) Then with this flu or whatever it is, I couldn't take being at that machine that has the bulk of my tools loaded on. Still, now that I'm using it several hours a day, it seems like a great move.

    Spinning articles is consuming hours of time every day. I end up with good unique readable articles, but I wonder if that is the best use of my time.

    Not much to report, but I don't want to give up and abandon this thread. Now that I'm at least partly recovered, maybe I can push ahead with the time and effort this deserves.
     
  7. revekozu

    revekozu Junior Member

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    I was looking at my thread scubscriptions here and tripped over this one I started last year about this time. Ha! It's almost like reading something written by an alien. :)

    I've been pretty busy with my "real job" during Spring summer and fall. And the past couple months have been sucked away helping an old friend get over her addiction to xanax and alcohol. (yes it really was an all consuming project)

    Of course I've still dabbled with tools and fed my website addiction.

    Looking back at the things I thought last year at this time, I feel my greatest oversight has been in not doing proper research for profitable keywords and domains with low competition. I installed a Marketing Samurai demo a few days ago and I've been reading threads on keyword ideas... A real eye opener on a subject that is basic to most successful internet marketers. I mean duh... it's basic market research like opening any business.

    So I plan on starting yet a few more sites based on keywords and matching domains that make sense from the ground up. And i'm taking a look at keywords for my established sites to see if I have any gems there I can capitalize on... and quit wasting time and energy on low paying or overly competitive keywords.

    Panda killed a lot of my sites that were admittedly mostly thin affiliate stuff that I could just throw links at and do ok.

    I tried WP Robot on a bunch of sites with mixed results. I may still install it on sites, but not use it to automatically scrape and publish. Instead have it post drafts and edit/rewrite those, add images and video.

    I'm finding I just don't have the time to use certain "needy" tools I've gotten into. I'll be doing more outsourcing of link pushes and blast with those with scrapebox, bookmark demon (but will wait for captchasniper to support it) and other tools I have on a VPS.

    I've completely dropped using tweet attacks and social backlinker. outsourcing social links

    AMR still impresses me, but I don't spend enough time using it.

    I'm still using the treadmill desk and sometimes sit on an exercise ball at my regular desk. I've dropped 20 pounds since last year and my blood pressure is under control thanks to some meds. Trying to lose more weight so I can drop those meds as well.

    The next couple months I'll have time available again and I'll be focusing on market research for any new projects, outsourcing the time consuming jobs that I just can't do effectively on my own, and keep the tools I do like running in my VPS.