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keyword stuffing is out of fashion? Nope!

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by howard_hughes, May 25, 2014.

  1. howard_hughes

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    while every seo guru keeps saying stuffing kws is bad, if you do it, you'll get a penalty, blah blah.. it couldn't be farther from the truth.

    It just needs to be done cleverly with variations or just have lots of (lengthy) content and you're fine. big gurus and G ass l*ckers get away with that easily.. just need to be creative about it.

    say for example - this page below -
    http://moz.com/learn/seo/redirection

    Has the word "redirect" 67 Times
     
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  2. M4XW3LL

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    Does that link rank for the keyword redirect?
     
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    We'll never know for sure, but that's a possibility.

    Actually, the keyword density for the word "redirect" isn't very high, even though it appears 64 times in the copy like the OP claims.

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    Read what i said,

    "It just needs to be done cleverly with variations or just have lots of (lengthy) content"

    I never said that the kw% was high. But 67 Times? It's still stuffing.

     
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    Well, if I take this

    along with the fact that it is ranking #4 for "301 redirect"

    and then watch this



    my conclusion is that something is not right.
     
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    Keyword stuffing never stopped working, just the fools get dinged for using it stupidly :sasmokin:
     
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    Dude, you mention "redirect" being used 67 times.

    And when asked for proof you come up with a different phrase "301 redirect"

    That is NOT the same!

    Now go find an example that has a 100% match and show us again to proof your point or ask Moz.com to put "301' in front of every "redirect" word and wait a few weeks to see what happens.

    I just checked to see where they rank for the word "redirect" NOT IN THE TOP 500, exactly as expected!
     
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    Dude, using thew word "redirect" 67 times on a page is pretty much keyword stuffing and violation of Google's quality guidelines, but still the page/site is not penalized. I think that is what op was trying to emphasize.
     
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    I dont think any website has preferential treatment by google. They already have high pagerank and that is what makes it possible for them to rank for the keywords for which they are competing.
     
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    Have you ever considered meditation or some kind of breathing techniques? Would do great for you!
     
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    Agreed, just can't stand people with tons of posts and thank you's spreading such nonsense in SEO forums.
     
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    And YOU get an infraction for insulting our members!
     
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    Maybe this guy is working for them...
     
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    Its pushing it a bit to say using the word "redirect" frequently in a page talking about redirects is keyword stuffing. Its a common word in that subject! Plus 1% aint that high anyway.

    Like the angry dude says above if it was "301 redirect" that many times then yeah it would be stuffing as thats what its ranking for.
    There does seem to be a lot of paranoia and conspiracy theories here recently :ebay:
     
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    What's the max? Then I can anticipate on that.
     
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    Exactly, but just worded a bit more nicely.

    People should do an SEO test here before they're allowed to post to not have so much nonsense being spread here.
     
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    Hi,

    My understanding of keyword stuffing correlates with keyword density. The keyword "redirect" has a keyword density of 1.4% in the body. The page does not rank for that keyword in the top 300. However, another page does which is at position 93 and keyword density for "redirect" is 0.7%.

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