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keyword researct - should I go for it?

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by Zoco1, Jun 15, 2012.

  1. Zoco1

    Zoco1 Regular Member

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    I was searching for some keywords the other day and found a "keyword1 keyword2" phrase with 12000 searches and cpc of 6$.

    I can buy the keyword1-keyword2.net and org domain.

    The problem is that "keyword1 keyword2" in G returns 4 milion results and intitle:"keyword1 keyword2" returns 60K results.According to traffic travis it has medium difficulty. My plan is to build a large site with more than 100 pages for it.

    What do you guys think? should I go for it?
     
  2. Cranula

    Cranula Junior Member

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    This is what I do when I find a keyword. I use several 2 to 3 keyword tools. I search up the same keyword, if they all give me back the same green light to go ahead and work on the niche then I do it. becareful with depending solely on one program, it can have flaws that come back and bite you in the butt after you've written 100 pages of content.

    Do your due diligence.
     
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    SirKonstantine Junior Member

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    if your gonna have a 100+ page site, do it.

    if its gonna be POS 5 page MNS, don't.
     
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    Chizz Junior Member

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    Which tools do you use? And what are the results that would give you the green light?
     
  5. Zoco1

    Zoco1 Regular Member

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    You mean 5 page MNS? Position 5 will be quite good for a 12K searches keywords as you will rank for other long tail keywords too.

    The niche is a broad one, there is a lot to write and all long tails have cpc from 5-8$
     
  6. Zoco1

    Zoco1 Regular Member

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    Another question : what's your opinion on the domain name - is it better to buy the domain keyword1-keyword2.com .net .org OR keyword1keyword2(+ something).com net org
     
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    POS = Piece Of Sh*t
     
  8. Zoco1

    Zoco1 Regular Member

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    Haha, no no It's definitely going to be a longer project. I wouldn't consider starting with less than 50 pages :) I just wanted to know if it's worth the work.
     
  9. codo3500

    codo3500 Regular Member

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    Why bother analysing how many pages are indexed for that Keyword? To be #1 you really only need to be more optimized than the current #1, #584 is probably some piece of unrelated crap. Check out the top ten, see how many have the keyphrase in their title and their H1, run the top 5 through majestic. That will give you a much clearer picture.
     
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  10. WebDev

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    Go for it

    Avoid hyphenated domain names

    If you have to, add the letter x or v to the end of the domain name - or a generic word

    e.g. keyword1keyword2x.com or keyword1keyword2site.com

    Build a big site and try and cover many long-tail phrases as well as your primary search phrase
     
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  11. Zoco1

    Zoco1 Regular Member

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    Believe me, for very competitive keywords it goes far beyond on-page SEO. The first 4-5 pages are probably all very well optimized. Not to mention the number of backlinks they have :)
     
  12. Zoco1

    Zoco1 Regular Member

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    Thanks WebDev

    By the way what is the logic behind hyphenated domain names ?
     
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    clyde Elite Member

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    There's no logic behind it, try to avoid if possible since they're not considered an EMD for the most part.
     
  14. Zoco1

    Zoco1 Regular Member

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    I'm confused because I know I read somewhere that hyphenated domain name is the closest to an emd
     
  15. codo3500

    codo3500 Regular Member

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    This is why I said go and run it through Majestic SEO, backlinks are 90% of the game.
     
  16. WebDev

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    Its a sad story

    I was a prolific EMD wordpress autoblog builder

    I built all the sites to a proven formula, building 10 sites at a time

    I used to use hyphenated domains with no problems - until a whole batch failed to rank - and they were all hyphenated domains

    The batch of sites before and after ranked in days with no problems - they were non-hyphenated

    Just the hyphenated domains failed - Google must have taken a dislike to hyphenated domains

    I checked with other people I knew and their hyphenated domains also failed about the same time

    Guess hyphens equaled spam in Google's eyes

    I stopped registering hyphenated domains after that, and the new sites were fine

    I don't build wordpress sites anymore, but will never register a hyphenated domain again, for building any type of site

    Note: I used the blogging underground pages not posts method - where you put up a single keyword rich page to make sure it ranks, before spending time on building the site - it took Google ages to even index the pages, let alone rank them (normally got page #1 ranking for keyword in 3 days) - anyway I let the domains expire without building out the sites
     
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  17. WebDev

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    That may be the reason they stopped working for me - they worked fine for years - then suddenly stopped - I just assumed Google flagged them as a spam indicator