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Keyword and Competition ?

Discussion in 'Black Hat SEO' started by zneve08, Mar 26, 2011.

  1. zneve08

    zneve08 Registered Member

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    I have been using Keyword Dominator to find a giant list of keywords to start with. I like this program because it finds a huge list of KWs that I can then upload into Niche Refinery to find which ones to then plug into traffic travis to see the competition. It finds huge lists to look through without having to manually save the Google adwords key tools. It is a good process I have started using, however, when it comes to looking at the competition (PR, BLs) I never know how weak the competition is. Sometimes I will see PR 0's littering the top 10, 2 or so PR3's and thats all, with limited backlinks ranging from 10-200. Most of the competition (2-3) websites are youtube, or amazon.

    Travis will say its a star 2, difficult difficulty for competition? Should I back off because of this statistic even if the tops seem to be low competiton in my gut? Any advice? None of the pages rank higher than PR3. Top 10, there is one website with 800 BLs but the rest are hovering around zeroish. 5 PR 3's, 1 youtube, 1 amazon, 1 walmart (the top #1). It looks like the #2 and #3 spots are a fellow IM. I am new to IM been on the forums for a few months and could use the advice. I am looking to target a KW that is 40,000 global monthly searches, 2 star traffic travis rating, but it looks pretty good to me...?

    PROs I need your help! Thanks :)
    Will give more info as needed in helping me make this decision! Will not give the keyword out though, for all you skeptics :).
     
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    Just go with your feelings and test, the more you test the easier it will be for you to spot easy/hard keywords in the future.

    Sorry I could not be of more assistance.

    Maybe this will help you.

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    http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/white-hat-seo/266300-method-step-step-keyword-research-newbies.html
     
  3. easydab

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    Traffic Travis usually is wrong 80% of the time about domain age and PR, this said it is still a good tool to see how good a website is optimized seo wise for a specific keyword.

    If you only look at TT look at the competion's seo and backlinks, try to analyze your competion backlink strategy and don't look only at the amount but also quality and if it are only a few backlinks also try to find out if it isn't actually a pyramid provind a lot of juice.

    Ofcourse there are more factors which weigh in the ranking like website age, dmoz, yd etc but due the constant change of factors weight i would primarly look at seo and backlinks in the first place.

    good luck
     
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  4. zneve08

    zneve08 Registered Member

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    "If you only look at TT look at the competion's seo and backlinks, try to analyze your competion backlink strategy and don't look only at the amount but also quality and if it are only a few backlinks also try to find out if it isn't actually a pyramid provind a lot of juice."

    This is something I have been leaving out completely, checking the competitions BLs, I have just been looking at the number. Could you elaborate on this part for me so I can add it to my arsenal? How do you go about doing this in your own keyword research? Thanks :)
     
  5. easydab

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    For analyzing backlinks i actually use a programm 'seo spyglass' .

    But before you go buy some programms try yahoo site explorer using firefox with the seoquake plugin as addon, this method is free and can give you some ideas too.

    But before you start all that i need to ask you something. did you do a good keyword check ? as in what are your [exact] local monthly usa searches ?
    I say this coz it's a common mistake to take broad searches as target number and you have to realize that if you rank 10th you only get about 3% of the [exact searches] for a specific keyword.
     
  6. zneve08

    zneve08 Registered Member

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    Aha well you got me there, thank you for the double check.
    global:27,100 unique:14,800
    difficulty for google adwords bar is completely full. Again, this is confusing me because the top 10 seem easy to outrank? The domains have been around for quiet a while for a few of them but again there are some that have PR0 (#2 spot) and lower, and their BL count is 800.

    I suppose I am confused as the top 10 seem medium or easy to rank for but both traffic ranking softwares are telling me difficult?
     
  7. easydab

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    adwords bar has nothing to do with ranking nor competition of you, it just means that the more full it is the more advertisers are willing to pay for that specific keyword.
     
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  8. zneve08

    zneve08 Registered Member

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    I was going to take a screenshot of what I am seeing but I cant post links here :-/