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Keep www. or update to only http:// for an 8 year old site.

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  1. ipcorp

    ipcorp Junior Member

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    I just landed a client that has had a site for 8 years now. His pages are all www and is ranking very well for a lot of keywords. Should I bother telling him to update to http:// or should I keep the current structure and save time? The site is very authoritive.
     
  2. Hermetik

    Hermetik Newbie

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    The websites http://no-www.org and http://www.yes-www.org sum up the arguments on both sides. Both sites argue for access to be allowed via their preferred style, and allow for access via the other style.

    Bottom line, pick one as canonical (the one you have been using), and support access to the site via either address. The current Google documentation for "Preferred domain (www or non-www)" outlines that process in more detail: http://support.google.com/webmasters/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=44231
     
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  3. Stizerg

    Stizerg Power Member

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    if www is ranking well why do you want to redirect it to non-www? It will only harm wesite's ranking.
    I would redirect non-www to www and to keep all link juice in one place.
     
  4. Cas87

    Cas87 Regular Member

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    Agree, my personal preference is www over non-www anyway.... no reason to change an 8 year old domain when it only boils down to personal preference
     
  5. sovereign

    sovereign Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    If you change it you're taking a chance with his website and it may lose all of it's rankings.

    Plus nothing wrong with having a website with www why change a good thing :D
     
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    Yep. No point to ruin a good thing. Their links are obviously pointed to www, so support that!
     
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    I don't understand.... why not use both?

    This can easily be setup with your domain records and nginx.
     
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    Because it can be both considered duplicate content and seperate pages. Beyond that there is no difference in http:// and http://www.
    If you use www, force www. If you don't use www, force a non-use of www. Don't allow both.
     
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    Stop posting stuff you know absolutely nothing about.

    Use both, diversifying your link portfolio is best, always.
     
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    I guess the same could be said about you, no?

    www and non-www are both seen as different websites, since www is technically a subdomain of the domain, whereas non-www has no subdomain. Google always recommends setting a canonical URL in your HTML and in their Webmaster Tools. Guess you left out that bit. Plus setting it in htaccess is always beneficial.

    Links can always be built to both the non-www and www. Setting a canonical URL doesn't magically erase your various links across the web.

    Feel free to do research before insulting others' advice and making yourself look like an ignorant asshole.

    Thanks for wasting your time and the invitation to negative rep you.

    Have a nice day!
     
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  13. Hermetik

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    The OP is going to come back to 10 of us saying "keep it", heh.

    Like others mentioned, I too use redirects at the webserver level to catch non-canonical requests, and make sure all my sites' internal links are consistent in their usage. That way no one ever copy/pastes a different version of the URL, and type-ins are corrected before the page loads.
     
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  14. ipcorp

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    Thanks for all the info guys. Yes, I've decided to keep the www. I've just never had to face this yet and I really appreciate all the info. That being said, the same client has all of his articles/content as underscores in the URL.

    Would it be worth it to update the URL to:

    and canonical link tag the old underscore URL to the hyphen URL new one?
     
  15. ipcorp

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    Any ideas anyone?