Kabosh on Internet Marketing

hogatoga · Oct 2, 2008

I have spent several thousands of dollars on products, scripts, ebooks.

I have read everything, done everything.

It didn't amaze me that what I learned is the same as what I do for my day job as a broker which is that you will never make money by someone teaching you something, you make the most money getting people to believe that a method you have will make them money. It worked then, I don't know why I thought Internet Marketing Niche would be different. So so sad......

For example take rich dad, poor dad: They supposedly teach you how to make money online, but at the end of the day, they are the only ones that make money, and that is how they do it. http://www.blackhatworld.com/blackhat-seo/images/smilies/confused.gif

unlimitedpostings · Oct 2, 2008

Sounds like you're on the wrong forum. Your mindset already has you beat. I know hundreds of people here who have bought other members methods and made a ton of money with them. I came here as a noob that had made some money, but after being here only a few months, I had learned enough to make money several different ways and still do it today.

travs · Oct 2, 2008

why spend thousands of dollars when you can just download most of them for free

hogatoga · Oct 2, 2008

its not the mindset. I am saying that the products that are marketed never deliver on what they say. If you really want to learn, get a mentor, that is what i did. You could buy a million ebooks, but noone will really tell you how they make money.

gonzomcribbinz · Oct 2, 2008

There never is a "system" that you'll be able to run with and make money, no matter how much people want to believe one exists.

It's trial and error. But it can be done.

themagician · Oct 2, 2008

'...It's all about marketing.

The money you wasted on products, scripts, ebooks proves that marketing, if done right, really works but you have to know what you're doing.

Rarely does anything live up to it's marketing blurb but then again, there are plenty of people who are always disatisfied with products if, on taking them out of the box, they are not immediately thousands of dollars better off.

Slimming products are another good example. People believe the latest marketing about weight loss and truly believe they will lose weight simply by purchasing the product. They fail to understand you have to use the product and be disciplined with its use.

The people who make real money are the risk-takers and the ones who find an alternative application for a product, script or ebook they initially thought was a waste of money.

'Lateral thinking' or 'thinking outside the box' or whatever phrase you prefer to use can make you rich.

In all honesty, do you really believe a guy who claims to make $20,000 per month is going to show thousands of people how to do the same and all for a few bucks?

Despite our free sharing and exchanging here on BHW if I had found a new way of making millions in my sleep I would be reluctant to share it with anyone.

Who knows. Maybe I have'.

themagician

funz · Oct 2, 2008

Stop arguing and question yourself. Read up all the threads here. This place is a goldmine for you friend

laptopdiva · Oct 2, 2008

My mamma always told me "quit yer bitchin' and just do it". Truer words have
never been spoken.

Many of the ebooks that are out today are just rehashed versions of the same crap.

Over an over again.

Your best bet is to read everything you can, absorb it all, and put it into action.

I wish you the best and hope you don't quit!

tanya7zhou · Oct 2, 2008

Hogatoga

I think you have it wrong a bit. Yes the info has been there since day one, then many people have rinsed it, tweaked it a bit and resell it. That's biz if you ask me. It's not that the info is crap, not at all! YOU need to know what YOU want first. If you don't know what you want, you will blame all those people who sell products to you

After you made up your mind, that you want to start somewhere and never allow yourself to be swayed by various attractive adventures "so to speak", you will find the relevant information that will make sense and with your creativity, you will achieve your breakthrough.

The moment you understand that the problem you are not making money and losing money is YOU. That's the day you become resourceful to yourself. Ideas will come when you are stable and focused and guess what? You will profit!

There is a lot of space on the internet for you to do something that will give you at least a thousand pounds a week.

Forget about credit cruch, economic recession, etc If you have something that will solve somebody's problem and save their time and effort.......................YOU have a Winner.

Believe me, there is room for you!!!

Thanks

Taz

tanya7zhou · Oct 2, 2008

By the way, I too was frustrated when i got started, Infact it took me nearly two years to grasp this whole "make money from home thing".

Now i have my own profitable niche, where everyday, I receive checks left, right and centre.

Emails from paypal "you have received payment, bla bla bla, do you want to accept it"

Now it's now normal to earn money online. There was a time i believed, i would never make it online. If you ask me, it was my devil telling me that! Don't listen to that voice.

Always tell yourself you will make it.

sevenths · Oct 2, 2008

themagician said:
In all honesty, do you really believe a guy who claims to make $20,000 per month is going to show thousands of people how to do the same and all for a few bucks?

yeah..this statement make me wondering everyday..

how could they claimed they make thousand dollars every months but sell the system in just $27-$67? If it is me, I would not easily sell it and if I want to sell it, most probably I charges with higher price.

sometimes, I don't know who I should believe in the IM world..

tanya7zhou · Oct 2, 2008

Sevenths;

The problem with hiding info is that somebody will figure it out and do something about it. There is so much that one can do. If you find a method of earning money, you might as well share it, thereby solving a problem for other people and you benefit on both ends, this helps to create a good rep for you too. Once a number of people know how good and helpful you are, they will flood your bank account with money.

That's life and that's how you become rich too.

AgentZero · Oct 2, 2008

Yep agree with above, if you share idea's with other people even though they are getting the better end of the deal, in most cases they will give you incredible information, tips, etc. If you times this by 10 people, then you have x10 you success rate from gaining tricks, tips, etc... and making a much better return then each of these people individually

tanya7zhou · Oct 2, 2008

Chini

Nice one. Economies of scale or law of averages if you ask me.

hogatoga · Oct 2, 2008

I get it. I know a lot, more than most of the people who sell it. Im just saying after all i've learned, noone really tells you how THEY make money. I know how to make money in internet niche. I just want people to know making money is about what you put in, and not some program or e-book.

invinceable · Oct 2, 2008

unlimitedpostings said:
Sounds like you're on the wrong forum. Your mindset already has you beat. I know hundreds of people here who have bought other members methods and made a ton of money with them. I came here as a noob that had made some money, but after being here only a few months, I had learned enough to make money several different ways and still do it today.

Believing is the key here. If you believe you can make money with any decent method, I bet you that you will.

tanya7zhou · Oct 2, 2008

Invinceable

You hit the spot right there ----- Believing. Many people lack that, while denying the fact that they don't believe. Internet Marketers are not lying, they might be rinsing and modifying the info or repackaging, etc, but they're not lying. If one believes and get determined with absolute certainty, that they will do it, then and only then they will reach that goal. Bit like law of attraction

hogatoga · Oct 4, 2008

What has this post turned into. It is like a self-help thread all of a sudden. lol

tanya7zhou · Oct 4, 2008

That's life HOGATOGA. One BIG circle. Top biz people, business owners, etc hadto believe they could do and be what they are. If you don't, it don't matter how many free stuff you get here, you will not make it.

YES belief in one self is the cornerstone of one's success!!!

litenup · Oct 4, 2008

Belief and Hope
Belief is not a plan and Hope is not a destination.
It's great to believe in your self, but in business you need a plan, you need a system that you can build on.
People don't like to hear this, but the road of business is littered with the carcasses of positive thinkers...it's the doers - black hat or white hat - who have put their energy in wisely, who achieve their goals.
Don't worry about making mistakes, you will learn from them. Just don't make one big mistake that puts you in a hole you can't get out of.
I'm not dissing positive thinking, its just that making money, if that's your goal, doesn't just flow to those who think positive, unfortunately.

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