Just Vaccinated, vaccine is a scam !

Kaovodich

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Got Vaccinated last week with Pfizer,
The effect is: tiredness, can do stuff, can do nothing !
i am 23 years old, a pro athlete, I've been doing boxing for mostly 7 years now,
just before last week i can go 35 km slow run easy,
Now if i go to the gym i just sit around without doing an effort
To be honest i was antivaccine person, but the government just make it hard to do stuff here,
and still i did not vaccinated,
but i was planning to move out to Germany, and without vaccine i can not, that's why i got vaccinated
moral of the story, vaccine is a just a big scam, and for the truth i will drop my future plan to go the Germany just to not getting the 2 dose .. even my upcoming visa and all the money i spent because my life is more important than that .
for people who like vaccine and stuff do not ask me to stay home and rest and it's normal,
I've been training all my life, i feel sad for people who have health problem and stuff and get vaccinated,
even in bed, i am bad LOL ! last night i can not go for mostly 2 round with my girl, again moral of story i am not going to get vaccinated again .
I had 2 different vaccines and had no problems, just a little bit of fatigue and after that it was fine.
 

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I am not for or against vaccines but It's weird that many young people who are healthy get the side effects like tiredness and all sort but my father who has diabetes, high blood pressure, and some other diseases had both vaccines like a few months ago and he is doing absolutely good with no side effects.

Sometimes I feel like it's about belief as well that people who think vaccines do harm that well focuses on the negative side so much that they actually feel bad after having it and someone who doesn't care about it has no side effects as he believes that vaccine will protect them.
 

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I'm facing a similar experience.

Government its putting measures to restrict our daily actions, I'm not anti-vaccine but I just did not want to get vaccinated.
Now, I have my life restricted be needing that "certificate" to do basic daily activities like going to the gym or travel anywhere.

Don't know what to do now.
 

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So the vaccine is a scam because you feel tired. seems legit
It's a scam because people do vaccine feel tired after it, and got covid.
anti covid vaccine, but people still got covid !
By the way, and no offence, it sounds like your ego got hurt the most. ^^
I still can beat people do not worry lol .
I'm sure your "experience" is totally true and unbiased then
Anti vaccine does not mean i will not get vaccinated bro, the gov make u do it before you took any fly outside of this crappy country.
i spend a lot of money on stuff, money that can transfer a lot of stuff on my life, that's why i got vaccinated .
I am not for or against vaccines but It's weird that many young people who are healthy get the side effects like tiredness and all sort but my father who has diabetes, high blood pressure, and some other diseases had both vaccines like a few months ago and he is doing absolutely good with no side effects.

Sometimes I feel like it's about belief as well that people who think vaccines do harm that well focuses on the negative side so much that they actually feel bad after having it and someone who doesn't care about it has no side effects as he believes that vaccine will protect them.
Interesting point ! my father also got 3 doses and he is fine, he also like your father has plenty of diseases . but in my point of view they make different type of vaccines, you can got the same vaccine, but not the same dose if you know what i mean, for me it's just a big drama show and a big drama test.
Here we go again xD
26.11 COVID shitstorm xD
Yeah it already started!
I'm facing a similar experience.

Government its putting measures to restrict our daily actions, I'm not anti-vaccine but I just did not want to get vaccinated.
Now, I have my life restricted be needing that "certificate" to do basic daily activities like going to the gym or travel anywhere.

Don't know what to do now.
That what made me do it in the first place, maybe i will give money to get my name in the system for the 2 or 3 or 4 dose . that is the easy way to be honest .
 

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I am not for or against vaccines but It's weird that many young people who are healthy get the side effects like tiredness and all sort but my father who has diabetes, high blood pressure, and some other diseases had both vaccines like a few months ago and he is doing absolutely good with no side effects.

Sometimes I feel like it's about belief as well that people who think vaccines do harm that well focuses on the negative side so much that they actually feel bad after having it and someone who doesn't care about it has no side effects as he believes that vaccine will protect them.

There's a research paper that discovered that these vaccines cause heart inflammation .

If your father already has heart issues and isn't doing intense exercise then it will be harder to notice that something changed .

Whereas athletic healthy people will notice it immediately .
 

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You claim the "vaccine is a scam", with 8 BILLION PEOPLE vaccinated, less than 0.00001% negative reactions.

Your case is just a questionable personal opinion, at best. And that's being generous.
8 BILLION WHAT ? HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
Now you just make me laugh, it's close to 8 Billion dose mate ..
some people got 3 doses, you can do the count, it's still not even 50% of people on our planet . by data it's 42,7 % and i still doubt all of this 42 vaccinated .. who has now questionable data?
 

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There's a research paper that discovered that these vaccines cause heart inflammation .

If your father already has heart issues and isn't doing intense exercise then it will be harder to notice that something changed .

Whereas athletic healthy people will notice it immediately .
That's the point ! most of people here defending vaccine can not move and do stuff to recognize what happen to their body ..
 

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Do you even understand how a vaccine works? And there's some people that wonder why it's so important to read and study lol.
Lol How vaccine works if i may ask? you know that when you want to give a vaccine to 8 billion person you need to test it for years, right? not for weeks or months? really you make me laugh here go study mate .
 

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obvsly all the vaccine lovers are really low in information, one claimed that we have 8 billion people got vaccine while the data from the world health organization is 8 billion dose with a rate of 42% and still i doubt that, one think he know how the vaccine works and you should just stay home for whole year to recover , i am stop responding and just grab my coffee and laugh at them so keep commenting vaccine lovers, keep the show going .
 

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I don't know how vaccine would be a "scam" but it appears that getting jabbed is the only option to stay ahead of Corona in the coming months and years. Any delay with it could well be catastrophic.
 

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Hey there,

I studied Biochemistry and have a Master of Science degree in Virology.
I'm not stating this to boast, but to underlay that I know a little bit about this stuff...

Lol How vaccine works if i may ask? you know that when you want to give a vaccine to 8 billion person you need to test it for years, right? not for weeks or months? really you make me laugh here go study mate .

The main approach of vaccinations is that they introduce a whole/ or part of a foreign organism (to which to vaccinate against) into your body.
The foreign organism (most often a virus) can be attenuated (still living, but modified with some methodology to make it less or not infectious anymore,
or the foreign organism can be dead when injected. It is also possible to inject only a part of the organism into your body (most often so called
spike proteins (proteins that the organism is carrying on his surface) are used).

Your immune system (if it's healthy) will detect that foreign proteins and will develop an immunogenic reaction to them. This is now very basic explained,
as the immune system reactions are complicated, and several immunogenic cells are playing an important role. There will be antibodies produced targeting these foreign proteins (that will hinder the real viruses to get into tissue cells), and there are so called memory cells, that will remember later that they have "seen" this proteins before, and they can develop a more profound reaction to the intruder much more quickly.

I am not for or against vaccines but It's weird that many young people who are healthy get the side effects like tiredness and all sort but my father who has diabetes, high blood pressure, and some other diseases had both vaccines like a few months ago and he is doing absolutely good with no side effects.

This is not weird at all, as the injections will simulate an intruder which will result in an inflammatory reaction to that intruder (like a simulated real infection).
As the immune system is very strong in early age, and then slowly de-gradates in older people, the side effects (fever, muscle pain, etc.) should be stronger
in younger people than in older people. There are of course exceptions of this rule on both sides, as some immune systems can detect the intruder easier
or less accurate, and so the reaction to it can be different.

There's a research paper that discovered that these vaccines cause heart inflammation .
If your father already has heart issues and isn't doing intense exercise then it will be harder to notice that something changed .
Whereas athletic healthy people will notice it immediately .

That's an interesting point and could indeed make sense too.

One final statement from my side about vaccines:
They are some kind of medicine, and all medicines have side effects. As the side effect of a real Covid-19 infection can be very serious and are not so uncommon, I guess to accept the mostly milder side effects of the vaccines (that are even less common) is a wise step.

Did you know that people die from using Aspirin (acetylsalicylic acid (ASA))? And I'm not talking about abuse with abnormal doses!
And nobody screams loud about the pain killer Aspirin being a scam or should be forbidden, most of the people just swallow that stuff like it's candy if they have any pain!
Go and read the abstract here:

Cheers

PS: I have no wish to discuss this now for hours, you can make up your own mind, and no offense is taken if what comes out is not a good fit with my opinion.
 

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I don't know whats goin on with phyzer and moderna , I cant really tell. Over here we got 2 local vesines. We crossed the landmark of 1000 million vasined persons yesterday. Thats a lot of bleeping vasinated people...burp..Not much side effect if you ask me personally i felt tired when I took the 2nd one for a week but just bout it...burp.. I was up and running the same day i took one for the team tho. Lot of is it just the head bro. I dont think bout it only when i login to bhw. Good luck bud....burp...
 
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It takes 10 to 15 years to develop a vaccine but COVID-19 vaccines took just a few months to develop. Magic eh?! And because the wokes are desperate for a solution to the pandemic, they made a religion out of the magic vaccines and those who have doubts about the efficacy and safety of the vaccines are silenced by being branded as idiots who do not understand science.
 

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It takes 10 to 15 years to develop a vaccine but COVID-19 vaccines took just a few months to develop. Magic eh?! And because the wokes are desperate for a solution to the pandemic, they made a religion out of the magic vaccines and those who have doubts about the efficacy and safety of the vaccines are silenced by being branded as idiots who do not understand science.
I don't disagree with you when you say they are desperate for a solution and it became like a religion. But governments, etc. spent billions for research and development. Stuff like this has a lot to do with funding and who is working on it...and if you give the smartest guys a shit load of money they will come up with something.
 
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