Your right, but we do it anyway. i wanted to run a couple tips by you just so you might not get discouraged, I have been working with a lot of new people lately on my sites and after an hour or two I hear them say wow this is hard. My response is yes it is.... If you made 1000 dollars an hour everyone would do this and we we all be drinking margaritas at the annual BHW convention in the Bahamas, but were not. When you get into this business look at it as a job, not a hobby. When you go to a job you might make 10.00 an hour so 80.00 a day minus expenses like clothes, gas, lunch, and your time of 8 hours and you might clear 50-60 bucks. if you took 8 hours in a day and 40 hours in a week could you make 300.00 a week if you REALLY applied yourself as if it was a job? Most of us would answer yes. But just like a job you have to find what you like to do. Is it adsense, building sites, doing work for other people, Ebay, Amazon, promoting CPA? Some of got lucky and found the niche we love and some of us are still looking but the bottom line is that we are all here to help each other be successful. Even you non-newbie guys that make great money doing this remember where you come from and remember that one day be it not so long ago you started doing this and how hard it was. So as my way of giving back if your new and you want some help to make some money let me know. I will take on 10 new people and get them up to speed. I can't promise you anything just some knowledge and a nudge in the right way. If anyone else wants to do the same please post that newbies can contact you also. I want to thank all the members of this forum for everything as you have helped me tremendously in just the few short months I have been here. Maybe we should vote on an annual get together in the Bahamas?