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Just lost my 4th job in the past 5 months

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by jonvital, Jan 28, 2012.

  1. jonvital

    jonvital Junior Member

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    im super stressed, just lost another job bcuz i couldn't afford to even get to work smh my plan was to stick it out in any little job while i build some capital to invest in my IM ventures but its not easy and to make it worse its almost impossible to come by a regular job here in NY with normal salary and once again I'm in a financial crisis. arrrrghhh :sad: .. really thinking of doing some not legal stuff with some of these IM things i learned over these years for some short term capital
     
  2. reinie

    reinie Elite Member

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    Finding 4 Jobs in 5 months is hard enough,especially in NY... at least you are doing something right. Try to find one closer and maybe search for one that offers a signing bonus.
     
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    How did you lose the other 3? What is your living situation? How far away was the job? Next job you get, you gotta do anything it takes to get there on time. I know young women who walk alone in the dead of night through the bad part of town in snow storms 1 hour to get to and from work to pay their bills. If you gotta leave 3 hours early to get to work on public transit or something, you gotta do it. Good luck to you.
     
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  4. jonvital

    jonvital Junior Member

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    yea but soo much BS, this last job i was working 14 hours a day to go door to door to sign business for energy deregulation for $30 per signup and it wasn't as easy as it sounded , many days without making a dollar and so much mental stress. Im going to give a another job a shot though
     
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    jonvital Junior Member

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    well i was kinda exaggerating with 5 months lol but in 2011 i first two where telemarketing jobs where i was absolutely miserable sitting with that stupid headset on my head all day listening to peoples bullish!t and 3rd was a local marketing company where i would go door to door to business and sell them internet marketing. i lasted the longest there and made some decent money but not enough to cover the bosses investment in me so i ended up getting fired.
     
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    Kickflip BANNED BANNED

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    I understand, that isn't even a real job in my opinion. Real jobs pay a guaranteed wage for every hour you work. Commission only is brutal, and I don't have the stomach for that sort of thing. High pressure sales to people who just want you to go away... If you can learn anything from this time in your life, then learn how important every dollar is. Even when you start working again, be careful with every paycheck. Its tempting to spoil yourself, but don't go overboard.
     
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    7878 Executive VIP Premium Member

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    I can put you on a Pay-forPerformance appointment setting gig if you need work, but you'll be back in that dreaded headset making calls. That being said, it's better to be miserable than homeless. Ping me if you want.
     
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    Kickflip BANNED BANNED

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    Those sound like the same jobs I used to have to take. They really do make you appreciate good jobs once you land them. Nobody should have to be absolutely miserable at work, it just makes life not worth living. I've gone into many telemarketing jobs, stayed for the first day of training, and never went back because I just couldn't do it. You really have to have a certain frame of mind to do that type of job, and obviously me and you don't have it. Again, good luck. I am glad you explained more about your situation, thanks.
     
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    meathead1234 Moderator Staff Member Moderator Premium Member

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    What a load of crap. How is a sales job not "real" because your only form of compensation isn't a wage?

    There are millions of jobs out there where commission or a bonus is part of your total compensation package.

    Commission only works for people who are actually good at what they do and worth employing. The employee takes on an element of risk, and in return makes more than they would on a wage (assuming they are good). If they suck, they don't get paid. I think it's a great model.

    Some of my team work commission only and they make pretty good money... I guarantee I pay them more than any "guaranteed wage" job would. Go ask them whether or not they consider it "real".

    @ OP - it doesn't sound like you lost any of the jobs, it just sounds like you thought you were too good to do the work so gave up on it.

    Can't afford to get to work? Sell some shit on ebay to pay for the bus. If you think "working 14 hours a day" is hard, then IM probably isn't for you. Most of us worked like that for a year before we started making anything that would resemble a full time income.

    Don't mean to be harsh, but you came here looking for sympathy and it really doesn't sound like you're prepared to put up with crap short term to make it in the long run.
     
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  10. jonvital

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    right now my plan of action is to blast craigslist with work from home job ads and follow up with leads and send them into my onlinepaydaysystem dot com funnel where i get about $80-$100 per signup i never really had any success with it but i know someone who says their doing consistently $1k/ week with it so I'm gonna give it a shot. if not, then my other plans of actions can't really be advertised online lol.
     
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    Sorry dude, at least ur trying and not being a dead beat. Good luck
     
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    dont get me wrong, 14'hr days is not considered overboard for me, but when you go 14 hours daily without making a dollar is the hard part for me. but i also know that %100 commission jobs can outweight regular jobs because i used to also do rentals in the city and i would have huge paydays whenever that would be but it was too unstable for me. if i have an opportunity to work my worth and get paid on commissions i would work until i pass out, so please dont take me as someone who does not know how to appreciate something good
     
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    If you find that doesn't work out as expected the offer stands. I wish to luck. ;)
     
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    meathead1234 Moderator Staff Member Moderator Premium Member

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    I'm not saying you don't know how to appreciate something good... I'm saying you don't seem prepared to get through the crap to get to the good part.

    Everyone has to start somewhere. Even if it's a shitty telemarketing job - yeah, it sucks, but it will pay the bills temporarily. You have to talk to idiots in ANY level of business, don't assume that it gets easier once you move up the ladder (if anything, it's worse). Once you have a solid foundation you can start some IM on the side. Please do not try to make a living from IM when you have no other income, it will only put more pressure on you and end badly.
     
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    I tried looking up your website but it sent me to a godaddy page. I can try and help you fine tune what you're doing, as this is similar to what I do. Shoot me a message and I'll see what I can do.
     
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    Do you not see where I said that is my opinion? If someone works for hours a day, and doesn't get paid, then I do not consider that a real job. If I go to a "real job", and I work, I expect to be paid. Maybe my definition of "real job" and yours are different. But for me, I don't consider it a "real job" unless you get a guaranteed wage.
     
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    your in Brooklyn, start a service oriented biz, cost you a few bucks for printing materials. print some fliers and post them all over Bed-Stuy, Crown Heights, Flatbush, Bushwick, East New York, Red Hook, Sunset Park, and Borough Park you can outsource once you get some cash rolling in.

    I know times are hard all over but you need stick it out, you are living in a big city, there is money all around you.

    if i were you I would start a messaging service, post your fliers in the not so good neighborhoods and watch the dirty money roll in.

    good luck.
     
  18. smallgiant

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    I also have to agree that commission/performance/bonus type jobs are definitely great and "real" jobs. If my friend didn't get me a job at a tech company a while back, I'd probably be dead in a ditch somewhere.

    The simple fact that it's performance based is what motivates me to work everyday. Every damn dollar counts, and I don't care how hard I have to work. You need money to make money. It is that simple.
     
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    As I understand many barstaff/servers in the US get paid a few dollars an hour and their income relies very heavily on tips (which effectively a form of commission). If we assume that without tips the server can't pay their bills with earning any tips, would you still consider that a job?

    Here's another one for you:

    You and me work in the same company. We both get paid $10 an hour (guaranteed wage, no commission). I don't do much work and aren't great at what I do. You are great at your job and work hard.

    Would you consider that fair to get paid the same amount? Or would you prefer to be earning commission for the extra work you are doing? I bet you'd be the first to complain about it on a flat rate.
     
  20. marusia

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    My sister is a server. Where we live, she makes $2.13 an hour, on the basis if she doesn't average at least minimum wage they will compensate the difference. I don't think that's a bad proposition. If I had to work for no guaranteed wages whatsoever though, I'd have to pass. The thing that would worry me is what if it's a crappy product that doesn't sell well? Commission based positions can go either way. Around here though, almost all commission based jobs have a (low) base wage.