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Just got offered an in house SEO position

Discussion in 'BlackHat Lounge' started by Sampler, Sep 24, 2011.

  1. Sampler

    Sampler Senior Member

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    Hey guys,

    I didn't know this was going to happen. Had a classified ad up saying that I could provide SEO services to businesses and this guy called up and offered me an interview to work inhouse in his SEO firm.

    Have no idea whether I want to do this or not though. Any thoughts? I like the idea of working as my own boss but maybe this could be some really good experience.
     
  2. stereoscience

    stereoscience Newbie

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    I would say go for it to get the experience and then if you want to go solo you can and maybe even bring some clients with you.
     
  3. nonin

    nonin Jr. VIP Jr. VIP Premium Member

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    that is good and rare thing to happen :) so, gratz!

    1) prepare your portfolio (very careful) incl. facts how your work has influenced on the profits of your clients
    2) do very careful and detailed research on future employers website - find good and bad bits and compare them with competitors (remember, your own pain is much more important than tsunami in Japan)
    3) talk minimum about your own projects
    4) .. ;) and mention, that even if you don't like it - you can do some BAD stuff as well (->black hat style)

    good luck
     
  4. jazzc

    jazzc Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    No, no, no, never do that. :saeek:

    You will raise the expectations to the roof and still get paid low. ;)
     
  5. Wings[SENSE]

    Wings[SENSE] Regular Member

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    Personally I wouldn't go for it and just continue building my own business. In long term you'll make more money this way and you'll learn the real deal being on your own.
     
  6. Sampler

    Sampler Senior Member

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    Yeah that's definietly the long term plan. But it's whether this can provide some really good expereince that will help me.
     
  7. clyde

    clyde Elite Member

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    Take the job for the experience, at least you won't be lonely.

    You can leave anytime you want with prior notice.
     
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  8. plumbum416

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    There is always stuff to learn, so you could take the interview, ask lots of questions yourself an figur out if the offered position could give you any new insides. If so, than you could work there for some month, learn new awsome stuff and network with some people, hell you could even get to know some buisness provided SEO from this guy, make contact with some people there and if you think you can provide better service offer it to them after cancelling your employment
     
  9. jazzc

    jazzc Moderator Staff Member Moderator Jr. VIP

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    If you are starting out, take the job to build a contact list through *his* clients. If they want you to meet people, always say yes. Get some experience and move on your own path.
     
  10. Bross

    Bross Senior Member

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    Money isn't everything in life.

     
  11. Bross

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    Meet him regardless of whether you are going to take it or not.
     
  12. havingadabble

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    The experience will be invaluable (not to mention potentially having access to the companies suppliers and customers!!!)

    Once you have a clearer, insiders view on how a company operates within a particular niche then you'll, by default, be able to market yourself as an SEO guru within that particular industry which can't be a bad thing.

    I'd say go for it - as other have already said befoe me, if it sucks you can leave.

    Best of luck either way.
     
  13. LBrown

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    I would never take it. Gosh, freedom v. slavery... not a tough choice for me. But if you are interested in doing SEO work for clients it will provide you a good business experience.
     
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  14. gundamwing

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    one word

    be your own boss
     
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  15. sukataetumba

    sukataetumba Senior Member

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    haha those were actually 4 words :D
     
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  16. Jonny Quick

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    1) How successful are you currently? Any plans on expanding, hiring employees, getting a brick & mortar location, etc... Or are you stagnant, treading water, losing motivation, vision, etc...

    2) If you stop being self-employed, are you going to lose clients, reputation, etc...? Are you going to have to start from ground "0" if you quit your job and go back to being self-employed? i.e. Will there be a "loss" if you take this job?

    3) Is this an increase or a decrease in your income, and what percentage either way?

    4) Some "experience" is bad. Experience in dealing with an asshole? A dumbass? A cheapskate? It's not enough to have different experience to consider it an improvement. Exactly how is this experience any different AND better than the experiences of being self-employed.

    5) Define a timeline. How long are you going to work for someone else? A year? The rest of your life? Better define it now in advance, rather than accidentally staggering into a duration of employment that you will regret later.

    6) Severance package? If you quit or are fired, are you going to have the necessary capital to start-up self-employment again?

    7) What's your nature? Are you a Leader or a Follower? Will you be happy working for someone else, doing things their way, for their reasons, on their timetable, meeting their standards, etc...

    8) What are your social skills like? Can you work with people, the same people, day in & day out, every single day without showing up for work one morning dressed in camo and toting an Chinese SKS?

    9) What kind of benefits? Medical? Dental? Retirement? etc...

    The statement "money isn't everything" is stupid, and didn't need to be said. Well duh no shit it's not EVERYTHING, but when it's the difference between seeing a dentist or losing a tooth, it's pretty fucking important. Back in the day I used to listen to assholes that would say shit like that, and I made some very stupid decisions as a result. My life would be better right now if someone had given me some REAL information, instead of drooling out some retarded spiritual bullshit about how being a "good person" was more important than money. Someone needs to kick that dumbfuck hard in the ass, both for me AND for him. "Money isn't everything." How fucking stupid.

    Being a "good person" doesn't pay the rent, being content with who and what you are doesn't avoid your car getting impounded because you couldn't afford to pay for insurance, the dentist doesn't take moral purity as payment for a tooth going bad, and quality women do not want to spend the rest of their life with a retarded dumbfuck that doesn't have a pot to piss in, and too stupid to understand how vitally important money is as security against something unexpected and catastrophic happening, like a serious car accident, or a serious medical condition like diabetes.

    I guess that's my best advice. Don't pay attention to any retarded dumbfucks that try to undermine the importance of money because they haven't got any and want to drag you down to their retarded level in order to make themselves feel better about themselves. It's lonely being a retarded loser, and they want you for company. Don't accept their invitation; kick them right in the teeth instead.
     
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  17. ahiddenman

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    Good thing is your getting paid an hourly rate and not a one time or monthly fee that you would get from a client.

    Also the SEO firm will teach you new things and open up new possibilities for you both Career and Knowledge wise.

    In these times you can always guarantee safety as you may be high flying at once then if something happens your world will come crashing down faster than ever.

    Take the offer, You would be stupid not too (No offence)
     
  18. SEORocks

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    Well Said!!

     
  19. drogon

    drogon Elite Member Premium Member

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    Well, surprised no one mentioned he is being offered a job to do in house SEO for this firm which may consist of clueless people looking to him to be the guru and not the other way around!

    So really depends on how much you know already, how much you are earning and your available time to work o your own projects in comparison to working for someone who may well know less than you do and offering you a job to teach them seo!
     
  20. freakhim

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    Well said !!