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Just got a BIG client and need whitehat mixed with blackhat

Discussion in 'White Hat SEO' started by greenleaf4u, Jan 19, 2011.

  1. greenleaf4u

    greenleaf4u BANNED BANNED

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    OK I just got a BIG client here in Portugal, I want to mix it with blackhat and whitehat, I do Scrapebox,Tweet attacks, and youtube, but also alexabooster.

    Any tip on how many links a day with SB? without getting sandboxed?
    I was thinking of doing around 10 youtube a day, alexa for 1 hour or so a day aswell, but dont know with SB, help someone, this is longterm and can give me a good sallery every month. but want to do it safe, he need to se result within 2-3 months, also need targeted visits in luxery area.
     
  2. craigslistguy

    craigslistguy Regular Member

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    if you want to do it safe dont give it to him half assed...

    SB comments are nice but i would put together a solid linking structure for him and then you could just comment blast those 2.0 props.

    SB comments, while nice and give a nice boost, wont "solidify" your position. And will always fluctuate in BL amount and in your SERPS

    And i would hope since its a big of client as you say, you wouldnt mind taking the extra steps to insure he is happy and a lifelong customer

    You could then create some "starter" traffic from a service here on BHW to show him some "promise" while the real traffic comes in more and more after the initial "report"
     
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    First I second craigslistguy,
    then I think that you don't come around by buying relevant PR links,
    as you can't risk his website to get f** as it means that you are f**, too.

    There should be a good link selling service in Portugal.
     
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    Don't SB his main site... set up a bunch of web 2.0s and articles that link to his site and SB those guys. Build a couple of tiers all pushing the link juice to the main site and hit the outer ones with SB first, then the second tier and then the first tier.
     
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  5. MisterTwister

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    Don't blast the main site. Make sure you build some web2/blogs and blast the hell out of them instead. In fact don't do anything blackhat to the main site. Then pass the link juice on to the main site!

    That way you avoid 2 things.

    1. Your clients site will not get de-indexed (although I don't believe this would happen)

    2. Your client won't receive complaints for being a spamming bastard -this happened to one of my clients and I had some explaining to do!

    Good luck and don't forget to charge mega bucks!
     
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  6. dannyhw

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    I never use BH for clients, but if you do at least let them know the risks. Link spamming will risk a sandboxing and even if you use buffer sites to avoid that they will lose their value eventually. A big client should have a serious budget and there are much better ways to use the money than any cookie cutter approach.
     
  7. craigslistguy

    craigslistguy Regular Member

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    This is why you BUILD ON A REGULAR BASIS. and redo the ones that get "flagged" until you get the amount you want to stick..

    Consistency is key to prevent A LOT of things from happening
     
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    It's not a matter of being flagged for anything, it's a matter of having links that were once pretty good be useless years down the road. This is why you just have to be honest with clients. If they want to spend their money on link wheels and whatnot that's fine, but they should be aware of better opportunities that may be available to them. Every situation is different. If I'm working with a client and I can spend my time leveraging their resources into getting a few links that will keep them at the top of the SERPs for years to come, I'll advise them to go that route. If some pharma or weight loss business wants to hire me, I'll guide them into a top notch black hat setup.
     
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  9. greenleaf4u

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    this domain of his is more then 5 years old, and are already on page 2 on google, he wants it no1 place, and for that keywords he want its very possible, I was thinking of scraping do follow from sb and keep it clean, would this be ok and do you guys think result will come within the time period?
     
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    Clean ******** comment posting can definitely have a positive impact, but it's a little bit unpredictable. I would go for it, but I'd still spend some of my time looking for some creative ways to get links. Remember that you've got the advantage of building links on behalf of this guy, not yourself. I've developed quality content that I submitted to industry associations that were dominating the serps I was targeting. Had I just been some no name guy submitting they probably would have ignored me. When they see content being submitted by a company established in the industry, however, they ate it up. Just like that, boom #1 ranking!
     
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    I think you're in a heap of trouble if you sold services you can't offer.

    SB blasting a white hat client's domain? Man you've got to be crazy.

    Go safer routes, get him into local link directories, get him relevant backlinks from his competitors and forget anything Blackhat. Thats a good way to get your client's site shit-canned and put you out of business.

    Also, if you're going to be taking on clients, make sure you can actually do the work right before taking on a client. Otherwise you're just another BS SEO guy trying to peddle shit services and give us real SEO people a bad name.
     
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    I do mostly corporations. They would just kick my azz if any blackhat or remotely unethical procedure were to be used on their sites.

    Do all white hat...don't cross to the dark side.

    If you are not confident of your white abilities.... outsource the work to people in less developed countries like the phillipines...I have heard that $300 get you someone to work for a full month.


    and please..please do not forget to charge what White hat is worth.

    good luck.
     
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    Well hopefully the guy will be successful and learn some stuff with his newfound responsibility. Of course on the flip side, when you are doing either SEO or software consulting, explaining how bad the last guy screwed them and how you'd fix it can be a great way to get a foot in the door. The madder they get at the guy who burned them, the more you start to seem like Jesus. Never fails.
     
  14. greenleaf4u

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    As I said I want to mix it alittle, I have experience of 2 years of backlinking, Iknow what I do but are not surten of SB, My own pages have been on No1 place on google in a very competetive keywords, but just asked advice for SB and how to do...
    Iknow I will do good because my experience with my other 25 webpages I have been working with so thats no problem, so dont missunderstand me guys....
     
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    greenleaf4u BANNED BANNED

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    the guy wants to rank 20 keywords, I choose the 3 best ones after taling to him and then work most with them, then the others a few times a day.... any suggestions?
     
  16. nikoman

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    Just buy a bunch of high pr aged domains install wordpress on them and put some random content in the front page along with your client's site link (contextual link), use unique content for best results and promote those blogs using blackhat methods and you get your mixed promotion method. Your client's site will be promoted using pure whitehat method mean while all support blogs will be promoted blackhat method.

    If you do not want to buy high pr aged domains then use WEB 2.0 and free hosting packages. I recommend putting good articles on those support blogs as they may build links naturally and therefore will push your client's website to the top. Try backlinks hydra, that guy knows how to make it possible.
     
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  17. goads

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    Of course you can use scrapbox and all the BH tools. After all blog commenting with scrapebox is just a faster method then doing it manually. Link diversity, quality, quantity, and velocity is what is required. Do it all. I have been using all these tools here on BHW for all my big clients, some brand names you see everyday, some public companies. Everyone uses these tools. You have to use them to get an edge.
    If you want PM me and I can chat with you to give you a good strategy. I've been doing this for 15 years.
     
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  18. rainbow

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    Goads,
    I can't pm yet. Would you be willing to chat with me too?
    Thanks